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How Many 'Moderate' Muslims Are Really 'Sleepers'?
PJ Media ^ | 08/03/2019 | Raymond Ibrahim

Posted on 08/03/2019 7:43:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

On July 9, Islamic jihadis tortured and gang-raped a 60-year-old Christian virgin before stoning her to death in Syria.

Below I translate portions of an early Arabic report on this incident, written by an apparently dumbstruck local and/or acquaintance:

They rape, they kill, they rob, and they fornicate while proclaiming “Allahu Akbar!” [meaning “Allah is greater”]  Who, I wonder, is this god that they worship?  Surely it is the god of demons…  I certainly cannot call them “animals,” for animals are cleaner and more merciful…  Susan was 60 and spent her life educating generations of her village…  According to forensics, this 60-year-old woman was gang-raped over and over for nine continuous hours before being stoned to death. …  What did this virgin woman who was never before touched by a man feel between their filthy hands, as they gored at her flesh, tore at her chastity?  What physical pain? What spiritual pain? What humiliation?…

The report goes on to note what may be the most deplorable aspect of this incident:

Her rapists and murderers are from the [jihadi] organization, al-Nusra.  Some of them are foreigners but others are from the area.  In other words, those who raped and stoned her are themselves from among her former students and neighbors, whom she taught Arabic in school over the course of 30 years….  Surely she never dreamt to see such depraved savagery in the eyes of her former students…. Nonetheless, they preyed on her like wild beasts—even though wild beasts do not rape their mothers (emphasis added).

To be sure, this is hardly the first time that Muslim neighbors, students, and even friends turned on non-Muslims once the opportunity presents itself.  For instance, after the Islamic State (“ISIS”) entered the Syrian city of Hassakè, prompting a mass exodus of Christians, many otherwise “normal” Muslims joined ranks with ISIS, instantly turning on their longtime Christian neighbors.

Such is the third category of Muslims that lurks between “moderates” and “radicals”: “sleepers”—Muslims who appear “moderate” but who turn “radical” once circumstances become favorable.

This shift has played out countless times over whenever and wherever Islamic terror groups infiltrate.  The following are testimonials from non-Muslims, mostly Christian refugees from those regions of Iraq and Syria that came under ISIS or other jihadi control.  Consider what they say about their longtime Muslim neighbors who appeared “moderate”—or at least nonviolent—but who, once the jihad came to town, exposed their true colors:

Georgios, a man from the ancient Christian town of Ma‘loula, Syria, tells of how Muslim neighbors he knew all his life turned once al-Nusra—the same jihadi outfit that gang-raped and murdered the aforementioned 60-year-old Christian women—invaded in 2013:

We knew our Muslim neighbours all our lives. Yes, we knew the Diab family were quite radical, but we thought they would never betray us. We ate with them. We are one people.  A few of the Diab family had left months ago and we guessed they were with the Nusra. But their wives and children were still here. We looked after them. Then, two days before the Nusra attacked, the families suddenly left the town. We didn’t know why. And then our neighbours led our enemies in among us (emphasis added).

After explaining how he saw a young member of the Diab family whom he knew from youth holding a sword and leading foreign jihadis to Christian homes, Georgios continues:

We had excellent relations. It never occurred to us that Muslim neighbours would betray us. We all said “please let this town live in peace — we don’t have to kill each other.”  But now there is bad blood. They brought in the Nusra to throw out the Christians and get rid of us forever. Some of the Muslims who lived with us are good people but I will never trust 90 per cent of them again.

A teenage Christian girl from Homs, Syria, relates her story:

We left because they were trying to kill us. . . . They wanted to kill us because we were Christians. They were calling us Kaffirs [infidels], even little children saying these things. Those who were our neighbors turned against us. At the end, when we ran away, we went through balconies. We did not even dare go out on the street in front of our house. I’ve kept in touch with the few Christian friends left back home, but I cannot speak to my Muslim friends any more. I feel very sorry about that. ( Crucified Again, p. 207; emphasis added).

When asked who exactly threatened and drove Christians out of Mosul, Iraq, another anonymous Christian refugee explained:

We left Mosul because ISIS came to the city. The [Sunni Muslim] people of Mosul embraced ISIS and drove the Christians out of the city. When ISIS entered Mosul, the people hailed them and drove out the Christians….  The people who embraced ISIS, the people who lived there with usYes, my neighbors. Our neighbors and other people threatened us. They said: “Leave before ISIS get you.” What does that mean? Where would we go?…  Christians have no support in Iraq (emphasis added).

Other “infidels,” Yazidis for example, have experienced the same betrayal.  Discussing the ISIS invasion of his village, a 68-year-old Yazidi man said:

The (non-Iraqi) jihadists were Afghans, Bosnians, Arabs and even Americans and British fighters….  But the worst killings came from the people living among us, our (Sunni) Muslim neighbours….  The Metwet, Khawata and Kejala tribes— they were all our neighbours. But they joined the IS, took heavy weapons from them, and informed on who was Yazidi and who was not. Our neighbours made the IS takeover possible (emphasis added).

When asked during an interview why people she grew up with her whole life suddenly joined ISIS and savagely turned on her people, a Yazidi woman replied:

I can’t tell you exactly, but it has to be religion.  It has to be religion.  They constantly asked us to convert, but we refused.  Before this, they never mentioned it.  Prior, we thought of each other as family.  But I say, it has to be religion (emphasis added).

This phenomenon is not limited to the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq.  In Nigeria—a nation that shares little with Syria and Iraq, other than its Islam—a jihadi attack that left five churches destroyed and several Christians killed was enabled by “local Muslims” who were previously on friendly terms with the region’s Christians.

Nor is this phenomenon connected to any of those contemporary Muslim “grievances”—whether the existence of Israel, “blasphemous” cartoons, or “lack of job opportunities”—Western talking heads obsess over to rationalize away Muslim hostility.  The following anecdote, over one century old and from the Ottoman Empire, speaks for itself:

Then one night, my husband came home and told me that the padisha [sultan] had sent word that we were to kill all the Christians in our village, and that we would have to kill our neighbours. I was very angry, and told him that I did not care who gave such orders, they were wrong. These neighbours had always been kind to us...  but he killed them — killed them with his own hand (Sir Edwin Pears,  Turkey and Its People London: Methuen and Co., 1911, p. 39; emphasis added).

Such, then, is the other, forgotten group of Muslims that lurk between “moderates” and “radicals”: Sleepers, whose allegiance can and does shift at the drop of a dime.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: moderates; muslims; sleepers; terrorism
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1 posted on 08/03/2019 7:43:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

All of them.

Enemy Infiltrators.

Take NO prisoners.


2 posted on 08/03/2019 7:50:07 AM PDT by Howie66 ("...Against All Enemies, Foreign and Democrat.....")
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To: SeekAndFind

They are little deceivers who worship the great deceiver.


3 posted on 08/03/2019 7:51:05 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They don’t need to be sleepers.

A Christian who experiences a sudden emotional experience (born again) might take up church attendance and Bible study. A Jew with such an experience will observe Sabbath and keep kosher. Who will have such experiences is somewhat random and unpredictable.

When such an experience happens to a moderate muslim, violent jihad is a typical behavior to demonstrate piety.


4 posted on 08/03/2019 7:51:20 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: jjotto

Agreed. They are all potential time bombs.


5 posted on 08/03/2019 7:56:25 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: SeekAndFind

There is no “radical mohammedanism”. There is only mohammedanism. The mohammedan ideology is violent, expansionist, murderous, and totalitarian by nature.

NO MOHAMMEDAN IS TO BE TRUSTED EVER!


6 posted on 08/03/2019 7:57:47 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Islam is a faith that brings comfort to people. It inspires them to lead lives based on honesty, and justice, and compassion.”
— George W. Bush


7 posted on 08/03/2019 7:58:02 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: SeekAndFind

Before reading the article My personal experiences have taught me to never trust a Muslim, period. Lifelong “friends” can turn on you at any moment.


8 posted on 08/03/2019 7:58:36 AM PDT by hillarys cankles
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To: SeekAndFind

All of them. There is no such thing as a moderate muslim. Read their book.


9 posted on 08/03/2019 7:58:59 AM PDT by sport
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To: SeekAndFind

They will be sleepers until they go to Friday Prayers one week and all the Imams tell them to go to war with infidels.


10 posted on 08/03/2019 7:59:44 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (yawn)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think we have another case of the many good are being punished for the actions of a few.

Something like all the gun control laws.

I can see the problem,but I have no idea how to fix it.


11 posted on 08/03/2019 7:59:55 AM PDT by fproy2222 (MAGA)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think we have another case of the many good are being punished for the actions of a few.

Something like all the gun control laws.

I can see the problem,but I have no idea how to fix it.


12 posted on 08/03/2019 8:00:09 AM PDT by fproy2222 (MAGA)
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To: SeekAndFind

Moderate Muslims (where Hussein spent his wonder years)in action: https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3768753/posts


13 posted on 08/03/2019 8:02:41 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

How many grenades in a shipping crate can potentially explode?


14 posted on 08/03/2019 8:03:39 AM PDT by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What is a “moderate Muslim”? Does he adhere to the Qaran? More importantly, does he adhere to utterly corrupt and unconstitutional Sharia Law? If so, he is certainly NOT a “moderate Muslim” but one that adheres to killing and the overthrow of our Free Constitutional Republic.

If not, then he is a Muslim in name only for whatever reason and probably not a threat. The issue is telling which ones are the for-real Muslims and which ones are the fake, name-only Muslims.

You could put it this way: “Moderate Muslims” are fake Muslims. Maybe they call themselves Muslims to assuage their family, etc. I’m sure there are a fair number of them round. But again, the issue is ID’g which ones are the for-real Muslims and which ones are the fake, name-only Muslims.


15 posted on 08/03/2019 8:04:25 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: SeekAndFind

How many Indian H-1B visa holders are Spies for the Chinese ?


16 posted on 08/03/2019 8:06:25 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Howie66

I agree - all of them (though I’m less suspicious of those who drink alcohol/eat pork - they’re terrified of “devout” Muslims).


17 posted on 08/03/2019 8:08:28 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: SeekAndFind
Some of the Muslims who lived with us are good people but I will never trust 90 per cent of them again.

It's a Fact.. There are one billion Muslims worldwide and 10% of them are openly radical and sympathetic to radicals. We suspected the remaining moderates weren't all that moderate. So, we already know one million Muslims openly hate us and would gladly be violent towards us.. Now we know possibly 90 million more have the potential for the same betrayal and violence.
18 posted on 08/03/2019 8:13:15 AM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: fproy2222

I think we have another case of the many good are being punished for the actions of a few.

Something like all the gun control laws.

I can see the problem,but I have no idea how to fix it.


that’s a commendable Christian attitude. Unfortunately, it is not a Islamic attitude. The koran and the other four Islamic holy books are needed to understand the koran’s suras. The koran is not the Bible or the Torah, but something else altogether. The koran cannot be understood by viewing it through Christian eyes.

There is only one Islam: the Islam Mohammad proclaimed as the Last Words of Allah: “kill all who are not believers”. All other sentiments in the Koran were abrogated by Mohammad his self. There is no problem other than the nature of Islam itself and its adherents. If Mecca was reduced to radioactive glass, Islam would end and so would the perceived problem.


19 posted on 08/03/2019 8:19:12 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: kearnyirish2

The only good Muslim is a bad Muslim.

A Muslim who respects women as equals who can dress as they please, and believes that all humans can worship as their conscience guides them, is a bad Muslim indeed.

Such a Muslim is an apostate and a target for death.


20 posted on 08/03/2019 8:27:24 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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