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John F. Kennedy Jr. was ready to pursue politics, determined to save his marriage before plane
foxnews.com ^ | 7/16/2019 | Stephanie Nolasco

Posted on 07/16/2019 10:49:43 AM PDT by bitt

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To: allendale

Even a complex autopilot with artificial intellegence (if there is such a thing) probably would not have saved him if he was already inverted and approaching redline.

The Piper he was flying certainly didn’t have an autopilot that would control the power setting. He wasn’t ready for what he got himself into, imo.


81 posted on 07/16/2019 12:38:54 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: thoughtomator
I strongly suspect Hillary had him killed to remove an obstacle to her Presidential ambitions.

No need. Never take out a Kennedy when their self-destructive inclinations will do it for them. JFK Jr. flew into bad conditions for which he was not certified to fly. He got in a big fight with the missus before getting on the plane. Nothing was found wrong with the plane. He might have taken himself out playing football while skiing downhill. He chose the airplane. Nobody interfered with the investigation. JFK Jr. also wasn't close to papabile yet. The Clinton's keep their powder dry until needed (e.g. Ron Brown).
82 posted on 07/16/2019 12:40:40 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("...a choice between Woke-fevered Democrats and Koch-funded Republicans is insufficient."-Mark Steyn)
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To: thoughtomator

Another conspiracy theory.


83 posted on 07/16/2019 12:46:48 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: bitt

Determined to save a 2 year old marriage, hmmm. Barely out of the honeymoon phase. Serious red flags.


84 posted on 07/16/2019 12:49:38 PM PDT by bgill
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To: mjp

His cousins are losers, too.


85 posted on 07/16/2019 12:52:33 PM PDT by bgill
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To: z3n

He wasn’t “instrument qualified”. Not even close.

I don’t need to know this crap, I’m a KENNEDY!

By flying anyway, he committed suicide and murder.


86 posted on 07/16/2019 12:58:50 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: KevinB
Exactly. He struck me as even-tempered, even-handed and genuinely interested in all sides of the issues. I subscribed to his 'George' magazine and both sides of issues were presented. He wasn't like all the other scum Kennedys...even his own sister is a twit. I never heard him disparage anyone. He seemed to be gracious.

But...he may have turned had he lived. Remember, Gore, Hill, Bill, among others were 'pro-life', 'pro-marriage', 'pro-family' (in the traditional sense) at one point in their worthless lives. JFK jr may have turned into a raving lunatic like the rest of them.

87 posted on 07/16/2019 12:58:59 PM PDT by LibertyWoman ( Despite what your momma told you, violence does solve problems. Chris Kyle-American Sniper)
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To: Karoo
That is why they were “cursed” IMO

The "curse" came from the lobotomy that Joe Sr. had performed on his daughter Rosemary. The account of the procedure is just ghastly. A normal-functioning albeit rebellious young woman was rendered a total vegetable on the operating table.

Rosemary would be the first of Joe's children to die naturally, outlived only by her brother Ted.

88 posted on 07/16/2019 1:02:05 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: thoughtomator

It’s amazing how many people in the clinton’s way die
in plane crashes. It’s as if they had a special “mechanic” to take care of the planes before flight.


89 posted on 07/16/2019 1:12:06 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has beco</me my worst enema.)
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To: bitt
I think an angry gypsy put a forever curse on the bootlegging old man and his family.......

Joseph Patrick Kennedy Jr. killed in WW-II in 1944

Rosemary Kennedy, lobotomized and stored away in a mental institution for the rest of her life in 1941.

John F. Kennedy, assassinated in 1963.

Robert Kennedy, shot and killed in 1968

Ted Kennedy, fat, drunk and stupid who killed Mary Jo Kopechne on JULY 18, 1969 and should have gone to jail

Michael LeMoyne Kennedy, killed in a skiing accident in 1997.

David A. Kennedy, died of a drug overdose in 1984

Mary Kennedy, estranged wife of Robert Kennedy Jr., committed suicide by hanging herself in 2012

John F. Kennedy Jr. and his wife, died in a plane crash in 1999

90 posted on 07/16/2019 1:23:54 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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To: bitt
As I recall at the time, JKF Jr was happy running George magazine and had no interest and was not taking steps to get into politics.

It was only after he died that "sources close to him" started saying he was going to get in to politics.

91 posted on 07/16/2019 1:29:24 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Widget Jr

He was going to come out of the closet as a REPUBLICAN so Hillary had him taken out.


92 posted on 07/16/2019 1:43:57 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: bitt

John F. Kennedy Jr. was ready to pursue politics, however the klintons decided otherwise...


93 posted on 07/16/2019 1:46:30 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: bitt

It has also been said that John Jr. had investigated the death of his father and knew who killed him - someone named George. Was he about to reveal this publicly?


94 posted on 07/16/2019 1:53:39 PM PDT by mom.mom (...our flag was still there.)
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To: VietVet876
FYI:

Full NTSB report on JFK Jr. The report lists these findings: “Occurrence #1: LOSS OF CONTROL – IN FLIGHT Phase of Operation: DESCENT Findings 1. (F) LIGHT CONDITION – DARK NIGHT 2. (F) WEATHER CONDITION – HAZE 3. (C) AIRCRAFT CONTROL – NOT MAINTAINED – PILOT IN COMMAND 4. (C) SPATIAL DISORIENTATION – PILOT IN COMMAND ———-

Occurrence #2: IN FLIGHT COLLISION WITH TERRAIN/WATER Phase of Operation: DESCENT – UNCONTROLLED Findings 5. TERRAIN CONDITION – WATER.” It says:

“The noninstrument-rated pilot obtained weather forecasts for a cross-country flight, which indicated visual flight rules (VFR) conditions with clear skies and visibilities that varied between 4 to 10 miles along his intended route. The pilot then departed on a dark night. According to a performance study of radar data, the airplane proceeded over land at 5,500 feet.”

The report continues: “About 34 miles west of Martha’s Vineyard Airport, while crossing a 30-mile stretch of water to its destination, the airplane began a descent that varied between 400 to 800 feet per minute (fpm). About 7 miles from the approaching shore, the airplane began a right turn. The airplane stopped its descent at 2,200 feet, then climbed back to 2,600 feet and entered a left turn. While in the left turn, the airplane began another descent that reached about 900 fpm. While still in the descent, the airplane entered a right turn. During this turn, the airplane’s rate of descent and airspeed increased. The airplane’s rate of descent eventually exceeded 4,700 fpm, and the airplane struck the water in a nose-down attitude.”

Meanwhile, says the report, “Airports along the coast reported visibilities between 5 and 8 miles. Other pilots flying similar routes on the night of the accident reported no visual horizon while flying over the water because of haze. The pilot’s estimated total flight experience was about 310 hours, of which 55 hours were at night. The pilot’s estimated flight time in the accident airplane was about 36 hours, of which about 9.4 hours were at night.” The report continues:

About 3 hours of that time was without a certified flight instructor (CFI) on board, and about 0.8 hour of that was flown at night and included a night landing. In the 15 months before the accident, the pilot had flown either to or from the destination area about 35 times. The pilot flew at least 17 of these flight legs without a CFI on board, of which 5 were at night. Within 100 days before the accident, the pilot had completed about 50 percent of a formal instrument training course.

A Federal Aviation Administration Advisory Circular (AC) 61-27C, ‘Instrument Flying: Coping with Illusions in Flight,’ states that illusions or false impressions occur when information provided by sensory organs is misinterpreted or inadequate and that many illusions in flight could be caused by complex motions and certain visual scenes encountered under adverse weather conditions and at night.

The AC also states that some illusions might lead to spatial disorientation or the inability to determine accurately the attitude or motion of the aircraft in relation to the earth’s surface. The AC further states that spatial disorientation, as a result of continued VFR flight into adverse weather conditions, is regularly near the top of the cause/factor list in annual statistics on fatal aircraft accidents.

According to AC 60-4A, ‘Pilot’s Spatial Disorientation,’ tests conducted with qualified instrument pilots indicated that it can take as long as 35 seconds to establish full control by instruments after a loss of visual reference of the earth’s surface. AC 60-4A further states that surface references and the natural horizon may become obscured even though visibility may be above VFR minimums and that an inability to perceive the natural horizon or surface references is common during flights over water, at night, in sparsely populated areas, and in low-visibility conditions.

Examination of the airframe, systems, avionics, and engine did not reveal any evidence of a preimpact mechanical malfunction.

95 posted on 07/16/2019 1:56:21 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: thoughtomator

I strongly suspect Hillary had him killed

Low time VFR Pilot, flying at Night with Cloud Cover over open water. He was flying blind and most likely spiraled right into the water thinking he was straight and level.

Yes I have an Instrument Rating and would never consider flying over open water at night with cloud overhead VFR.


96 posted on 07/16/2019 2:07:39 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: eyeamok

I don’t think Hillary had him killed, but she was sure happy when he was gone.

One less Arkancide to carry out.


97 posted on 07/16/2019 2:11:44 PM PDT by Texas resident (Democrats=Enemy of People of The United States of America)
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To: SkyDancer

Thanks for finding and posting that document. Not much left to doubt.


98 posted on 07/16/2019 2:13:56 PM PDT by VietVet876
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To: CondorFlight

Hillary would have weaseled her way into a Secretary of State position somehow. The bitch was hell-bent on being President and nothing was going to stop her ....

Except POTUS Donald J Trump :-).


99 posted on 07/16/2019 2:22:45 PM PDT by edh
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To: VietVet876

I had to ask around and one pilot knew about where to find it so thought I’d pass it along. Have a nice Day. J


100 posted on 07/16/2019 2:39:09 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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