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To: DMZFrank
I am not claiming that my argument is definitive

Frank, your argument is as good as any and more thorough than most. While I don't agree with it, your opinion and mine carry the same weight: 0.0

These threads only have value as entertainment, they will never go anywhere and a Federal Court is never going anywhere close to this issue with a 10 foot pole. I have never seen a Federal Judge who has said that he/she thought that the question ought to be argued in Federal Court and that the term Natural Born Citizen ought to be defined so that we can include or exclude certain classes of citizens from eligibility for the Presidency.

As we discovered in 2008, and as mentioned on this thread, in most, if not in all, states the certification of candidates for the Office of President is handled by the Secretary of State who reviews a certification from a Political Party or an organization putting forward an independent candidate signed by an official of that organization. It says that Joe D. Blow meets all of the requirements for the Office of President and is qualified. The Secretary does not examine any other evidence or documents. If anyone wants to challenge that certification, they would have to having standing. Blah, blah, blah. It won't happen because none of Democrats, Republicans, and especially the Courts want to touch this and they won't.

135 posted on 07/13/2019 3:34:15 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

“It won’t happen because none of Democrats, Republicans, and especially the Courts want to touch this and they won’t.”

As a political and practical matter, I agree with you 100%. The corruption and cowardice with regard to forcing a proper constitutional examination of this matter is both breathtaking and dismaying. Particularly after the elevation of the usurper Obama to the office of POTUS for 8 years.

But odds are often long when waging a righteous fight against destructive and wicked entities. Those sort of principled historical fights are the unique hallmarks of American tenacity, endurance, and courage.

That is all the more reason to find a way to force an examination by a competent court or courts. The current battle over US citizenship, the very denigration of same by the open borders lobby and the border battle itself almost makes it an imperative. President Trump is beseiged and obstructed on this matter from every conceivable quarter.

Our very sovereignty with regard to a crucial qualification for the most important single Federal office hangs in the balance.

After all, the NBC issue has applied to only 45 citizens in the entire history of this nation, and assuming the US lasts for another 504 years? (that issue is in grave doubt too, given current cultural fissures) it would apply to only another 63 2 term presidents.

We are not talking about very many citizens, after all. Let’s get it constitutionally right.


155 posted on 07/13/2019 6:47:23 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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