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To: Red Badger

J&J was never a favorite company. The Johnson family with their wealth and foundations avidly promoted abortion. Also always wondered how they avoided a huge class action lawsuit involving Q-Tips. Many people have wrecked their ears using that product. J&J would of course argue that the product was not designed to clean ears. However there is little doubt that they have research and marketing data knowing exactly how it was used and the harm done. How hard could it be to convince a jury that they knowingly and persistently manufactured and produced an inherently unsafe product.


7 posted on 07/12/2019 12:10:51 PM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: allendale

Youre the kind of person that should look into their creepy spin off charity. They pay off the town with “improvement” money and then come in and start kindly offering health improvement programs overseen by your employer before trying to pry into your mental health. Its a weird sort of grinning Stepford fascism with its own “helpful” version of Hitler Youth coordinated at the public schools.


8 posted on 07/12/2019 12:53:32 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: allendale
To clarify, not a spinoff of the present day company but a foundation created with the money of one of the past owning family members.

Read some of the writings of those involved (https://www.rwjf.org/) and tell me it doesn't make your skin crawl.

9 posted on 07/12/2019 1:00:21 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: allendale

Ah, there is that concern versus the concern that we don’t put people into rubber rooms either — that we give them some margin for error without blaming the maker of the product that they foolishly used. Q-tips are good for a lot of things not even on the body. It’s a nanny statist’s dream to ban them, but we would be poorer for it.

I will confess: I am from a staunch “stick stuff in your ear to get out the wax” family. The curved end of bobby pins are good ear wax scoops, as it turns out — and the final cleaning was done with Q-tips. And none of us ever suffered a perforated eardrum as a consequence, though sometimes I got a passing ear infection later as an adult from Q-tips scratching (now I just rinse my ears in the shower, and the moderate cleaning that affords keeps my ear flora within a reasonable range, and I haven’t had wax problems for years).

But sticking stuff in the ear to try to deal with stuff already in the ear is probably as old as cave men. The printed official warning not to use Q-tips for that purpose (maybe qualified with “except under the direction of a nurse or physician”) would be quite enough in a world I was king in.

About the talc-and-cancer scandal? It’s likely that the people who most wanted to use the talc were those suffering irritations already, and thus were already at risk for cancer. Why do we have the separation of court and science here?


14 posted on 07/12/2019 2:29:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (May Jesus Christ be praised.)
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