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1 posted on 07/12/2019 8:03:50 AM PDT by robowombat
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These guys think the U.S. should occupy every nation in the World.


46 posted on 07/12/2019 9:24:04 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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This guy is wrong.


47 posted on 07/12/2019 9:24:35 AM PDT by apocalypto
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Whatever happened to MISSION ACCOMPLISHED?


50 posted on 07/12/2019 9:27:47 AM PDT by McGruff
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I don't understand JUST WHO they think is going to be fighting these wars? American kids?

We send our kids off to die and lose limbs in pointless and never victorious or ending wars while our cities AND TOWNS fill up with 3rd worlders and Africans who stay here and rape, pillage and plunder?

Are they f-ing kidding me? They are nuts.

We all know where the war is, no need to board a plane to get there.

51 posted on 07/12/2019 9:30:06 AM PDT by riri
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Were I able, I'd be asking the individual, "General, what do you see as an end state in this war? And what metrics would you apply to show when we meet it?" And it would be an entirely inappropriate question, unfortunately, because that is the question that political leadership should have answered for their military subordinates from the beginning.

Consider that the original military objective, the driving of the Taliban from formal governance, was completed in a matter of weeks. Defined, measurable, and accomplished. That's what militaries are supposed to do, it's what they're good at. "Keep" the Taliban out is a mission that is ill-defined and so hindered by constraint that it is little wonder we're still scratching our heads over the thing. "Keep" them out, but don't do this, that, the other thing: don't cross the border (huge mistake), don't kill too many civilians, don't cross the line set by whatever international press or political organizations have decided to stick their noses in after the fact, don't risk war with Pakistan, don't alienate the tribals; come on now, this isn't a mission objective, it's a mess, and these are Rules of Non-Engagement.

Nevertheless, it's the mess we're stuck with, and forward from here is going to require some real compromises that we shouldn't have to make. Part of the problem was that Bush and his administrations were hypnotized by a sort of neocon conviction that unending nation-building was a price not too big to pay for their own idea of a New World Order, and that 0bama's succeeding administrations were simply too self-absorbed and incompetent to even know what they ought to have been doing. Recall "I'm really good at killing people" (meaning droning from afar) from 0bama himself? That was the echo of Johnson and McNamara with their little pushpins, directing bombing runs half a world away in Vietnam. They never learn.

The current situation is a little valley of misery that is likely to take more effort to escape than simply to sit in and let people bleed. The latter position is just fine with the cynical MSM, incidentally, because it gives them a political club to use on their opponents in office. One struggles to recall any pressure ever put on 0bama by the MSM to resolve the matter, only a pathetic let's-pretend game that he was doing so. That's in the past but shouldn't be forgotten.

54 posted on 07/12/2019 9:44:23 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Just parking lot the whole place and be done with it.


57 posted on 07/12/2019 9:56:04 AM PDT by bgill
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A Strategic Mistake is only a mistake if you are following a specific strategy. Who is to say what the best strategy is if not the President of the United States, the Commander in Chief, in a conflict where there is no Congressional Declaration of War?


58 posted on 07/12/2019 9:56:05 AM PDT by webheart
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Peace


60 posted on 07/12/2019 10:17:23 AM PDT by JonPreston
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