Posted on 07/12/2019 8:03:50 AM PDT by robowombat
There have been no more 911 type attacks masterminded from Afghanistan since we sent in troops?
Nominating Obamite Milley is the real mistake.
Yes, but the British fought their ‘small wars’ and ,some not so small such as the Sepoy Mutiny, to win as thoroughly as possible.
It's time to huddle and come up with a different play. It's OK for the U.S. to carry the ball, as long as we have blockers. Unfortunately, our offensive line is attempting to tackle us.
Remember when the Democrats told us that Bush neglected “the real war” in Afghanistan? Obama had a “date-certain” to surrender and then he didn’t. Sure, we’ve been there way too long. That said, cutting and running always has the same result. Since we now hate “you break it, you buy it” nation-building, prepare for the Taliban to violate any negotiated agreement, take over the place and foster terrorist group like ISIS. The only strategy we can possibly have is go back every couple of years and thin the herd. The “give peace a chance” and the “none of our business” folk never have an answer beyond now, now, now. It’s not like America hasn’t cut and run repeatedly since the 50s. All American enemies know this and use it to their maximum advantage.
marktwain wrote:
Someone want to explain why afganapakistan is a place the U.S. wants to send our troops to?
There have been no more 911 type attacks masterminded from Afghanistan since we sent in troops?
.......Marktwain...The US has about 14,000 troops in Afghanistan. As of July 27, 2018, there have been 2,372 U.S. deaths in the War in Afghanistan. 1,856 of these deaths have been the result of hostile action. 20,320 American servicemembers have also been wounded in action during the war.
Why kill American citizens in America ...when you can kill and wound American citizens right at ‘home’.....
....take a second and think about it.
I thought President Trump was going to put a stop to all this, no?
Or did I get that from fake news?
Burning and salting (or perhaps irradiating) Afghanistan so not one poppy ever grows there for a century would be an immense boon to the planet, and to future world history.
Upton Sinclair:
It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.
Said by the guy sending his kids to Sidwell Friends.
I care about OUR kids.
2.4 trillion dollars protecting the bacha bazi boy rape culture. In today’s dollars, WWII cost us around 4 trillion.
A few goat humpers in the hills have cost us more that half of the cost of defeating Germany and Japan.
I know when I’m being scammed. If this was to protect us against terrorism, we wouldn’t let them into America. We would maybe even freeze all Saudi assets.... if this was about terrorism.
What kind of insanity thinks Afghanistan will ever be anything other than what it is? The USSR went there and couldn’t tame the place. Their ROE were the ROE of the Soviet Union. And we think our pussified “respecting islam” approach will ever succeed?
We are there now because it’s good for our senior officers and the defense industry.
Bush listening to Colin Powell’s crap, you break it you own it nation building garbage doomed the Afghan mission when you throw in fighting a lawyer-PC war. No nation has ever been successful in this third world crap hole and Powell and the US military should have taken a lesson from history and fought a different kind of war with the Taliban.
We should have used air power and limited special forces, in and out. I wish this general could give me a logical reason for staying, so far I haven’t heard one yet. Take out their poppy fields, and be ready to hit them with airstrikes and limited special forces raids as needed but staying one more day in this PC war is beyond wasteful.
Initially our goal was to get bin laden and punish the taliban, we have certainly done these things. Declare victory and come home.
We should have used nukes after 9/11. One on Mecca and Riyadh, one in the are where the attack came from in Afghanistan. Don’t issue a statement about it, explain it, or help them rebuild. Seize all Saudi assets in America.
That was who attacked us, and nobody will admit it.
The world would have understood and drawn a powerful lesson.
It would be a better world today.
I would not necessarily have opposed a proper punitive expedition in October or November 2001 - 30 days or less, land, kill their leaders break their sh*t, and leave with a warning that they would be dealing with Ohio-class missile boats next time.
I was STRONGLY in favor of using nuclear weapons once OBL was confirmed in Tora Bora in December 2001.
Since January 1, 2002, it’s all been a tragic waste.
“The U.S. picked up the global ball after the British Empire could no longer carry it after WWII. “
And nobody gives a thought about why Britain went broke and no longer carry the ball. Socialism, an aristocracy, endless expensive wars in far flung possessions, followed by streams of third worlders from those colonies into Britain.
It was that way in Rome, and now we are headed down the same path.
Globalism and empire is a dead end. It will leave America broke, flooded with foreigners who laugh at anything America was always about.
+1
Not only that, they have a lot of otherwise sensible people believing that the main enemy of our "ally" Saudi Arabia must therefore be our enemy as well.
No more fighting other nation's wars.
Never again.
“Upton Sinclair:
It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.
he copied that idea from Mark Twain (the one who hated wars). Twain wrote about corn pone opinions.
http://www.paulgraham.com/cornpone.html
Tell me where a man gets his corn pone, and i’ll tell you his opinions. Simple as that.
At one time is wasn’t!
Back in the 1960s it was a “roughing it” vacation spot. It was a particular favorite of European hippies (and some Americans!) because of the easy availability of drugs. You can find pictures on the web verifying that. The saddest part of those pictures are the ones showing the Afghani college students in Kabul, both male & female together! The young women are stylishly (though somewhat modestly) dressed in the latest European fashions. You find similar pictures from Beirut to Cairo to Tunis all show that Islam was if not dying but at least morphing into something civilized. Then Jimmy Carter breathed life back into the dying bacillus with his moronic Iran & Middle Eastern polices.
Interesting to speculate what could have been. It is possible it could come again. It will not by showing weakness or being “understanding”!
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