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To: amorphous

Some things are listed as nations.

Mystery Babylon is described as a city.

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63 posted on 07/13/2019 1:03:33 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris
Mystery Babylon is described as a city.

Had some time to review my notes and read the link to the older FR post you PM'd me.

I'm now more convinced than ever that Mystery Babylon, like the original Babylon, is a land/providence/kingdom/etc. Though it does contain a city of the same name, much like NYC is in NY. However the entire land is referenced many times in the OT NIV Bible and even in the NT.

Revelation 18:21 (NIV), [ The Finality of Babylon’s Doom ] Then a mighty angel picked up a boulder the size of a large millstone and threw it into the sea, and said: “With such violence the great city of Babylon will be thrown down, never to be found again.

Most especially in the OT, the name Babylon references a land or kingdom with multiple cites, its own army, multiple kings, etc., etc.

So while some verses in Rev. do mention a city, IMO, it is the main city of the Babylonian kingdom. "Mystery Babylon"/"Daughter-of-Babylon", to me, means it's also a land like the original Babylon in its heyday.

References here: a link to the 315 mentions of Babylon in the NIV at Biblegateway.com: https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=babylon&qs_version=NIV

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There are other hints of who the future of Babylon is we should explore. This isn't the proper place to do so, IMO. I wonder if we should start a new thread related to this subject. What are your thoughts about starting a 'eschatology caucus', or whatever it's called, to discuss such matters under the Religion Forum Rules?

Thanks for the opportunity to exchange ideas about Mystery Babylon and for allowing me the time to gather my wits and do some more research on this interesting mystery. Much is sealed until the end, but if this IS the end, it means much can now be revealed. :)

65 posted on 07/16/2019 11:09:38 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: SaveFerris
One more thing. In the older thread, I saw a reference to:

Revelation 16:18-20 New International Version (NIV)

18 Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder and a severe earthquake. No earthquake like it has ever occurred since mankind has been on earth, so tremendous was the quake. 19 The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath. 20 Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found.

IMO, the above are separate events:

1. The great city split into three parts [Jerusalem]
2. the cities of the nations collapsed. [Self Explanatory]
3. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath [Mystery Babylon]
4. Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found. [Tsunamis, massive earthquakes or symbols for something else - mountains could mean governments/kingdoms/countries for instance.]

66 posted on 07/16/2019 11:27:20 PM PDT by amorphous
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