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New questions about secret Russian submarine's mission before fatal fire (interesting rumor)
Fox News clip ^ | July 5, 2019

Posted on 07/10/2019 12:31:29 AM PDT by cba123

Well this is interesting.

Have NO idea if it is true, but it is interesting anyway.

This clip raises the question, was there an effort to possibly be accessing global internet cables, under the ocean?

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: interesting; russia; submarine
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To: piasa

Another rumor is that it was trying to recover (in whole or in parts) a Japanese F-35 that crashed in that location.


21 posted on 07/10/2019 4:49:34 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: BobL

And the likeliness of that working is even lower!


22 posted on 07/10/2019 4:49:44 AM PDT by gr8eman (Maybe the intelligentsia is not so intelligent after all)
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To: Wonder Warthog

“That “might” be possible with older cables whose operating mode is electrical. Fiber optic cables...virtually impossible. I know of no mechanism by which it might be done. Either sort of cable can be cut, but tapping the signal is another story.”
Don’t the fiber optic cables have signal boosters every so often? Then any potential eavesdropper would have electrical energy to deal with instead of light.


23 posted on 07/10/2019 4:56:19 AM PDT by conejo99
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To: American in Israel; cba123

F-35 links.

https://thediplomat.com/2019/05/us-navy-ends-search-for-japans-crashed-f-35a-stealth-fighter/

http://oceana.org/sites/default/files/explore/ocean466easchi_002_1.jpg

http://airforcemag.com/Features/Pages/2019/May%202019/Experimental-Laser-Weapon-Downs-Multiple-Missiles-in-Test.aspx

https://www.wired.com/story/lockheed-martin-fighter-jets-lasers/


24 posted on 07/10/2019 4:56:45 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: piasa

The Soviets already have explosive charges placed on these transoceanic communication cables where they can blow them at the start of any war with NATO.


25 posted on 07/10/2019 4:57:36 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (I survive on Caffeine & Hate & sometimes Whiskey.)
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To: momincombatboots

Here’s one for you, on another topic, but still involves intelligence.

Magic: The Untold Story of U.S. Intelligence and the Evacuation of Japanese Residents from the West Coast During Ww II
https://www.amazon.com/Magic-Intelligence-Evacuation-Japanese-Residents/dp/0960273611

Most of what you’ve been told about the reasons for the internment camps is lying by omission.


26 posted on 07/10/2019 5:14:21 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: cba123

Why go through all this hassle, when they can just set up routers with lots of connections to other routers and, in the process of helping the Internet flow traffic (where routers seek out shorter, less congested routes) sniff every packet going through them?

Because that’s how it’s ALREADY being done.

The Internet is a mesh network, not point-to-point.

Use a VPN and Encrpyt!

That makes your encryption/decryption points a point-to-point circuit OVER the mesh network that is the Internet.


27 posted on 07/10/2019 5:17:13 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: cba123

The whole story is weird. Supposed out of a small crew there were 7 or 8 “First Captains” which is like a colonel in our military on board. Their names were published and they don’t look like techies. Based upon the time line the mother sub must have hyper drive because the injured were reported to be in a hospital near Murmansk a few hour after the incident. Murmansk is a few thousand miles from where this allegedly took place.


28 posted on 07/10/2019 5:22:31 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: conejo99
"Don’t the fiber optic cables have signal boosters every so often? Then any potential eavesdropper would have electrical energy to deal with instead of light."

Good question. Best I can say is "maybe". Signal boosters modulate a semiconductor laser chip, so there is still no direct access to the signal. "Probably" any signal booster is boosting multiple cables with multiple laser chips simultaneously , so any radiated EMF is probably a mish-mash of different "conversations" from all the cables.

29 posted on 07/10/2019 5:24:09 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Wonder Warthog

How tapping of undersea cables is done

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/07/the-creepy-long-standing-practice-of-undersea-cable-tapping/277855/

They can be tapped at the repeater stations (fiber cables are only good for a hundred miles or so; then you need an electronic box which will receive the signal and send a cleaned up data stream on the next segment of the cable)

https://www.networkworld.com/article/2235353/the-incredible-international-submarine-cable-systems.html


30 posted on 07/10/2019 5:27:14 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: Wonder Warthog; conejo99

I notice that land based fiber cables have a “booster” station at regular intervals on their route. Seems logical deep sea would have them also.


31 posted on 07/10/2019 5:30:54 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$
Based upon the time line the mother sub must have hyper drive because the injured were reported to be in a hospital near Murmansk a few hour after the incident. Murmansk is a few thousand miles from where this allegedly took place.

I'm going to guess the sub had a support ship, with helicopter, nearby. Sub surfaces, loads injured into helicopter, helicopter gets to medivac plane.

32 posted on 07/10/2019 5:31:17 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Not for raw bandwidth.


33 posted on 07/10/2019 5:37:51 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: FreedomPoster

You can’t tap a fiber optic cable the way we tapped the Russians comms cable.

We used an inductive coupler. Can’t use induction to connect to the fiber optic cable.

You can cut that cable. That would suck


34 posted on 07/10/2019 5:42:02 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs

See post 30.


35 posted on 07/10/2019 5:43:57 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: familyop
Opus Dei member (radical Catholic organization)

There is nothing radical about Opus Dei unless you consider prayer subversive.

36 posted on 07/10/2019 5:58:12 AM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: FreedomPoster

Ah. Wow. Talk about vulnerable.


37 posted on 07/10/2019 6:00:39 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Hot Tabasco

For Public We are slowly getting there.

The Military has MILSTAR and I would think by now building a newer, better, faster and more Secure System that makes MILSTAR look like a Manual Typewriter.


38 posted on 07/10/2019 6:15:19 AM PDT by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!))
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To: Wonder Warthog; _Jim
Thanks for your good information. I agree that tapping these cables for data is a remote possibility. My conventional wisdom would say that fiber optics would be impossible to tap. They do not emit any electromagnetic radiation that could be used to intercept their data. These cables hold multiple strands of optical fiber and being able to isolate the data flowing in each one would be a technological miracle. If it can be done, it would be the use of some kind of quantum physics scientific breakthrough we are not aware of. In the Twilight Zone here is that possibility . . .
39 posted on 07/10/2019 3:52:37 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: cba123

Don’t the cables carry navigation information too? Mess with them and ships might think they’re in the middle of Georgia - not the Atlantic...


40 posted on 07/11/2019 1:09:37 PM PDT by GOPJ (Main reason black citizens have less 'wealth' is because money burns a hole in their pockets.)
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