I don't see what the big deal is. Also had to provide a proof of residency at the address I provided; such as a currant utility bill w/ my name and address.
'Merica.
Posted on 07/06/2019 10:18:21 AM PDT by beejaa
Do you doubt the President( he is the “White House”) will respond very soon without the petition?
signed, me And husband.
“Petitions do nothing but make signors feel good about signing.”
You have a point, but the other choice is to not sign. I’m already on so many email lists anyway, so why not.
“Sign here and receive more spam than ever before...”
I agree, but what’s a little more spam...
“Kinda like bitching and moaning on a message board while taking no active part in actually trying to change things?”
There is We Build the Wall with Brian Kolfage.
So what are you doing in addition to signing the petition or in addition to not signing the petition? No offense intended ... just asking ... Cheers!
BS!
Thank you for sharing.
DONE; it’s a perfectly reasonable question for the census.
MMMMM, fried Spam.
Back President Trump’s effort to make certain the census form contains the citizenship question in it and no reference to race. But to the country of where the respondent is a citizen of if not an American citizen.
TIME TO END HYPHENATING AMERICANS
One thing the Mexican Constitution has that we should consider doing.Mexico has no hyphenated Mexicans. They prohibit any reference to race when they conduct a census or issue any means of identification, Where a photo id is not available physical description is needed skin color yes but not by race but by nationality..
By doing this Mexico has avoided “balkanizing”, creating fractional disputes in areas where a given group in one of its states is a majority or a minority. Plus it could play a significant part in shutting down the political playing off racial divisions between Americans by the Democrats.
One thing the Mexican Constitution has that we should consider doing.Mexico has no hyphenated Mexicans. They prohibit any reference to race when they conduct a census or issue any means of identification, Where a physical description is needed skin color yes but not by race or nationality or tribal background.By doing this Mexico has avoided “balkanizing”, creating fractional disputes in areas where a given group in one of its states is a majority or a minority. Plus it could play a significant part in shutting the political playing off racial divisions down
And if the White House was reading FRee Republic then it should have included the following major constitutional problems with non-citizens voting on the petition imo, problems identified after the Civil War.
First, how can the feds protect and defend Section 2 of the 14th Amendment if the feds don’t know who its citizens are?
”14th Amendment, Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens [emphases added] twenty-one years of age in such State."
"Section 2 of the 14th Amendment provides that if a state denies the franchise to anyone eligible to vote, its allotment of House seats shall be “reduced in the proportion which the number of such . . . citizens shall bear to the whole number of . . . citizens . . . in such state.” This language is absolute and mandatory. Compliance is impossible without counting how many citizens live in each state." —David B. Rivkin Jr. and Gilson B. Gray, How to Put Citizenship Back in the Census, Wall Street Journal, July 4, 2019.
In addition to the feds needing to know the number of citizens to be able to comply with Section 2, also consider the following.
The post-Civil War congressional record shows that discussion related to Section 2 shows concern that renegade states who manipulate ballot box by allowing undocumented Democrats (my term) to vote in order to weaken the voting power of majority citizens are effectively nullifying the "Uniform rule of Naturalization Clause," Clause 4 of Section 8 of Article I.
"Article I, Section 8, Clause 4: To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;"
" If the States can admit to the elective franchise those who are not citizens, thereby neutralizing the votes of citizens, not only the Federal power of naturalization becomes a nullity, but” * * * * "a minority of citizens by the aid of aliens may control the government of the States, and through the States the government of the Union [emphasis added]." —Appendix to the Congressional Globe, 1868. (See near middle of 1st column.)
" Whatever difference there may be as to what other right appertain to a citizen, all must agree that he has the right to petition and also to claim the Protection of the Government. These belong to him as a member the body politic, and the possession of them is what separates citizens of the lowest condition from aliens and slaves. To suppose that a State can make an alien a citizen or confer on him the right of voting would involve the absurdity of giving him the direct and immediate control of the action of the General Government [emphasis added], from which he can claim no protection and to which he has no right to present a petition." —Appendix to the Congressional Globe, 1868. (See bottom half of 1st column.)
It's not surprising that PDJT is keeping his eyes open for Democratic ballot box fraud in 2020 elections.
Patriots need to support PDJT in working with the states to allow only citizens who present valid citizenship / photo ID cards to be allowed to vote, such cards scannable and / or containing security chip to facilitate “vision-impaired” Democratic voting officials.
Patriots also need to elect a new patriot Congress in the 2020 elections that will not only promise to support PDJT's vision of MAGA, now KAG, but will also promise to uphold their oaths to protect and defend both citizens and the Constitution.
Remember in November 2020!
MAGA! Now KAG!
Each time an issue is raised to prominence, it becomes a litmus test for the competence of the President in Nov 2020. The census is a hard event to execute without many minor hiccups. In the past, those hiccups were accepted and not blamed on the president.
But this time, raising the profile of the Census like this will be very political. It is so easy for Democrats in a purple state to sabotage the census process.... or just to be incompetent Democrats... and gues who the media will blame?
The same is true of every other real and imagined issue.
The Democrats only need to successfully sabotage one and smear the president with it. Trump cannot afford to look incompetent on a single issue where he is the one who appears to have made it an issue.
Of course, the media has a short attention span. So Trump is in the postion of needing to have multiple backup issues he can switch to as distractions when the media is blaming him for some bureaucractic failure.
I don't see what the big deal is. Also had to provide a proof of residency at the address I provided; such as a currant utility bill w/ my name and address.
'Merica.
Maybe the best way would be to rip up the forms when they arrive.
Maybe Robert should be sent this article, must be he never read it.
Done.
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Sign here: White House petition demanding 2020 Census include citizenship question:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3762014/posts
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signed and shared on Facebook and email...
Thank you, Brown Deer.
Appreciate it.
I’d better get busy signing and sharing.
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