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I think Biden is still in their top six.

I thought about keeping Biden in there for now, but not only is he falling apart politically, he's falling apart physically.

I just don't see him fighting for anything at this point, let alone his political future.

I think Biden is still in their top six.

I do, too (for now).

I expected him to crash and burn, but I was hoping that would be only after the won the nomination. I don't think he will get it after last night, but still hope he's good for many more gaffs and laughs before he withdraws.

yes Biden is still in top 6, although I agree he looked horrible but single debates are overrated but this sets things up for a Biden/Harris ticket-she would accept in a heartbeat and give Biden a Black female which should shore up the black vote and that might be trouble. See why below .
The election will come down to the economy (I really pray the Fed drops rates and we get a China deal) and block voting and now pandering.

Forgive me if you’ve read this before but: IF Biden (or other white guy) gets the nomination look for him to add a woman who is either Black or Hispanic. That’s because the democratic voter is all about Black/Hispanic block voting. thats how AOC and Omar among others got elected.

What is really going on is the increasing demographic or ethnic block voting for Dems- that is the real story, and challenge for GOP. Without the block voting of African American’s (93% + for Dems+ and especially Hispanic Americans-approaching 70%,) CA would still be the state that elected Reagan governor and nationally the Dems would have a little over 100 seats and about 10-12 Senate seats. At Least Hispanics don’t vote 90% dems

Just look at the states won by Trump,he won 32 states but only 4 have a population of Hispanic voters over 13%. Clinton by contrast won 28 states and only 5 had a Hispanic population of under 13%.

In CA, the Hispanic Population is now about 40% (and yes fueled by illegal immigrants and higher birth rate )and African American 12%.

This demographic shift and resulting voting trend is what is going on in early stages in Nevada, Az, Fl and now Texas. Colorado is now over 20% Hispanic and now a dem state, Nevada over 29% and voting solidly blue. I believe this is why the dems are for illegal immigration-it gets them votes and power.

We need to address, I think Trump can and does, otherwise its like trying to win a basketball game where the other team gets to start with a 20 point lead so we cannot pretend we can win without Hispanics or fall for the “its just white liberals” myth or the entire country will be CA