Posted on 06/27/2019 7:38:42 AM PDT by TexasGurl24
I hear that. It’s just this unanimous idea has been posted many times on here and it seems like it originated with early reports on FOX News and is now spreading all over the place. Whatever the merits of his position or the eventual outcome of the census question, this wasn’t some genius move by Roberts that brought all the justices together.
The census counts people, not citizens.
And what difference does it make whether they lie or not? The question is NOT used to decide whether or not to count someone, every human being gets counted.
Congressional representation is based on the number of people, not citizens. You’d need a constitutional amendment to change that.
I agree with your reading of it but would suggest it need only be a noncontradictory and nonpretextual reason; e.g., "I have determined that a citizenship question is in the country's best interest."
Roberts is absolutely the new median Justice and has taken the place of Kennedy there. We really need Breyer or Ginsburg to be replaced.
And/or he’s been compromised. I think someone somewhere has dirt on him.
As usual, a precise and enlightening selection of opinions from Constitutional history.
Thank you. I always read your posts for their information.
That is madness. Common sense must be applied here, w/o an amendment. You can’t be a visitor or an intruder, and count!
<> Non-citizens Have Large Impact On Congressional Apportionment <>
Immigration has a significant effect on the distribution of seats in the U.S. House of Representatives for three reasons.
First, seats are apportioned based on each state’s total population relative to the rest of the country, including illegal aliens and other non-citizens.
Second, congress has chosen to allow in a large number of legal immigrants and to tolerate wide spread illegal immigration. After the 2000 Census, the average congressional district had roughly 650,000 people. Thus, the more than 18 million non-citizens in the 2000 Census were equal to nearly 29 congressional seats.
The third reason is that non-citizens are not evenly distributed throughout the country. In 2000, half of all non-citizens lived in just three states and almost 70 percent live in just six states. States with a large non-citizen population will gain at the expense of states comprised mostly of citizens.
Roberts determined the census question is a tax.
“The end result here, is that if the agency gives a good reason for the Census question then it stays.”
I’ll take “Because we are supposed to provide for the General Welfare of AMERICANS” for 20 TRILLION DOLLARS.
Do we have to start a prayer circle for Roberts to stroke out?
Yes, in upholding O-care Roberts didn't seem to care what the motive of the executive branch people was. In the census case Roberts was very picky about what Trump people said. Looks like when he wants a result, consistency goes out the window.
Trump should do an Exec Order that if the citizenship question isn’t answered, the presumption is NOT a citizen.
Plus big notices of big fines for lying.
I don't think that would be a smart move. That would be encouraging them to act contrary to federal law.
What is there to explain?
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Then what?
Plus big notices of big fines for lying.
If you don't answer the question then you're not lying. The law specifies a $100 fine for not filling out your form.
When push comes to shove, I'll put "natural born US citizen" in the question about ethnic origin. You should, too.
“Trump should do an Exec Order that if the citizenship question isn’t answered, the presumption is NOT a citizen.”
>Then what?<
that state loses representation since the count is based on CITIZENS.
“Plus big notices of big fines for lying.”
>If you don’t answer the question then you’re not lying. The law specifies a $100 fine for not filling out your form.<
I meant if they lie and say they ARE a citizen when they are not. Should add “immediate deportation” for any on citizen claiming citizenship on the census, attempting to vote, etc...
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