[itsahoot]

The state cannot take away a parents responsibility for their child. Sooner or later someone is goin to end up getting shot over this.

The problem is we keep say the state can't do things that they have already done, so I guess they can do it after all.

[TalBlack]

They can until they cant. Anger builds and they keep it up...until, as I said someone says NO. This is not if, it’s when. The canaries in the coal mine have a different view of the gas level than the miners have.