[rlmorel]

You likely won’t hear anything.

I am generally against tariffs.

But I am even more against being arrogantly treated nationally as impotent fools by China and Mexico, and being bent over a barrel and taken advantage of in trade and immigration while they laugh and claw the wealth out of our country.

We have been decades past the point we should have been fighting back, and only Trump has fought for us.

The rest of them can go to Hell.

[Yardstick]

Yep, and even Trump himself is against tariffs in principle. He’s said out loud that the ideal is a pure free market with no tariffs. But of course in the real world tariffs make sense in the same way that government makes sense because men aren’t angels. We shouldn’t play the chump with nations like Mexico and China who would gladly use our free market idealism to bleed us out. I am fully in favor of Trump fighting fire with fire with tariffs.

[datricker]

I am fairly much an economic illiterate but here is one thing that seems to separate China from Mexico, in regards to US tariffs, the Pacific Ocean.

I'm finding this whole tariff thing all the theory versus what actually happens very interesting. Its highlighting One of the numerous reasons why the wall is so important.It creates a barrier similar to what the ocean does to China. Sharing a porous border with a nacro-state that has a shaky economy is already crappy, Things head south more of their poor are going to come North. Don't mistake I don't want old NAFTA and I'm fine with tariffs if we are going to secure the border. Otherwise its the cities and towns in America already deluged with illegals that are going to get even more of them.

I don't like Mexico I think its a terrible nation I also thing morally and culturally there people are far to comfortable having several sets of mutually exclusives values. I'd place tariffs on them just because I'm spiteful and mean but if it just means more of them here then no thanks.

Like I said that is why getting the wall first was so important it would have been a physical tangible thing of the US government keeping the faith with the people. Thankfully the democrats can't find their ass with both hands - even with Ryan and McConell handing it to them on a silver platter