Posted on 06/07/2019 12:31:46 PM PDT by buckalfa
Wasn’t Bloomberg at one time a D,R,and I?
No connection to Rockefeller, though I am sure they have met.
Justice made his money originally through coal. He is a genuine WV coal baron. He also owns the Greenbrier and is diversified in other industries. He has had a horrible business ethics reputation in that of hiring contractors and not paying them or making them take him to court to get paid. Also I have heard stories of him screwing over business partners, etc. In the past I have always taken these stories with a grain of salt because you hear similar stories about others in the coal industry. Remember this is a blue collar union state so you can imagine the stories. However with Justice its consistent and seems to be more then union PR smoke. To win the WV governorship he jumped from GOP to Rat then with Trump present and a lot of fanfare jumped back to GOP. He has been mostly a flop as governor, refuses to live in the governors mansion so he is always at least an hour from the statehouse. Therefore he is always accused of being out of touch with the legislature. He is very much disliked by both parties and I can’t really name any accomplishments. There are constant rumors that he will run for the Senate against Manchin. And rumors Manchin will leave the Senate and run for governor again against Justice. I don’t think Justice can win a head-to-head race with Manchin. Personally I think they’ll cut a deal Justice runs for the Senate & Manchin runs for Governor.
I also still think Manchin thinks he is a dark horse for the Rat Veep nomination and in his fevered dreams a darker horse for the Rat Prez nomination.
Justice is just another example of WV’ers overwhelming fascination with the rich as state political leaders. It’s possible Justice could end up a permanent political fixture just like Rockefeller. However these recent court cases may break his WV political “rich-guy” aura.
The answer is complicated. He has a history of non payment but his personal and business assets are comingled in what appears to be shell corporations designed to hide ownership and assets. 20 some years ago I tried to collect medical debts from one of his self insured employee health plans at a coal mine that Justice owned. I failed miserably as we could not get valid service. It seems the statutory agent was a foreign attorney operating out of a post office box.
Two observations:
1. Never make a personal guarantee for a corporation’s debts.
2. How much of the problems his companies had were due to Obama’s EPA regulating his coal mining company out of business? While laws requiring notice of layoffs sound nice, how could he have know of the death penalty he was given late in Obama’s presidency?
Small business owners must always sign the note personally. That’e the way it must be done
If you don’t believe in your business, why should a bank?
EVERYBODY in WV knew about Obama vs. coal.
So much so that in the 2012 Dem presidential primary (a CLOSED primary) a convicted felon in a Texas penitentiary Keith Judd, got 41% of the vote.
The debt originally belonged to one of Justices companies, Southern Coal. But Justice had earlier personally guaranteed the debt would be paid down.
Maybe you missed this.
The question becomes will Justice’s troubles create problems for Trump in winning WV’s electoral votes next year.
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Gov. Deal in Georgia leveraged the governor’s office to go from being several million dollars underwater to being a multi-millionaire.
The stories about his business ethics & company problems go way back before Zero was anything more the a gleam in George Soros’s eye.
I wasn’t commenting on his ethics; just that signing a personal guarantee when you know one of your businesses is going down the drain is not a smart move.
Agree!
There were Rockefellers as governors of both states.
Plus one for the obscure WV historical reference.
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