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US, Russian Navies Exchange Accusations After Near-Collision In East China Sea
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| 06/07/2019
| Ed Morrissey
Posted on 06/07/2019 7:44:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
The brinksmanship between Russian and US militaries has expanded from the air to the sea — and it nearly created a collision today near the Philippines. Just a few days after a mid-air confrontation over the Mediterranean Sea made headlines, the two navies are pointing the finger at each other as well. This time, the US Navy says it will declassify images to show the “unsafe and unprofessional” practices of the Russian navy:
“A Russian destroyer …. made an unsafe maneuver against USS Chancellorsville, closing to 50-100 feet, putting the safety of her crew and ship at risk,” US Navy spokesman Cmdr. Clayton Doss told CNN in a statement.
“This unsafe action forced Chancellorsville to execute all engines back full and to maneuver to avoid collision,” Doss said.
The US guided-missile cruiser was traveling in a straight line and trying to recover its helicopter when the incident occurred, he said.
“We consider Russia’s actions during this interaction as unsafe and unprofessional,” Doss said.
Not at all, Russia claimed in a rebuttal. Their ship was on a steady course and it was the Chancellorsville that swerved unprofessionally:
They cited a Russian Pacific Fleet statement as saying the incident took place in the early hours of Friday morning in the eastern part of the East China Sea at a time when a group of Russian warships was on a parallel course with a U.S. naval strike group.
The U.S guided-missile cruiser Chancellorsville suddenly changed course and cut across the path of the destroyer Admiral Vinogradov coming within 50 meters of the ship, the statement said.
A protest over the international radio frequency was made to the commanders of the American ship who were warned about the unacceptable nature of such actions, it said.
So who’s right? The US Navy says that the Chancellorsville was on a mission to recover a helicopter, which would require as straight a course as possible, as CNN’s Barbara Starr notes in her first report. If that was the mission, it wouldn’t make much sense for the ship to change course dramatically, especially with a hostile force tracking it in parallel.
It didn’t take long for the US to declassify a portion of the video, which is a measure of just how angry the Pentagon is over this incident. Here’s Starr again, pointing out the wake of the Russian ship as it appears to come within feet of the Chancellorsville — in what looks like wide-open waters:
Put simply, either the Russian captain is an absolute moron or the Russian military is engaging in deliberately provocative behavior. Perhaps they didn’t expect the US to release this video, or to release it this quickly, but it paints a pretty clear picture. No one got hurt this time, but these provocations will eventually cause an escalation at some point, especially if it results in collisions or a more serious response. That’s a bad path when one considers what an armed conflict could mean, and one hopes that cooler heads in Moscow will prevail to dial down these provocations in the future.
TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: chinasea; cnn; collision; dictatorship; navy; philippinessea; putinsbuttboys; russia; ussr; vladtheimploder
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To: Rainwave
Funny. I was just thinking the other day about the Hainan Incident in April 2001 where the ChiComs forced down one of our P-3 Orions.
Things were so sleepy, so slow for the months leading up to 9/11 where I had an uneasy feeling just as you described.
Everything seemed too quiet, like we were on the threshold of something big and bad happening. I ignored the feeling.
But for me, it was there. I know what you mean.
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posted on
06/07/2019 9:33:28 AM PDT
by
rlmorel
(Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
To: SeekAndFind
This was ROUTINE in my day.
And it’s not a big deal.
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posted on
06/07/2019 9:35:54 AM PDT
by
Mariner
(War Criminal #18)
To: Southack
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posted on
06/07/2019 9:39:14 AM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
To: SeekAndFind
The video has been clipped. Hmmmm
Here is the full version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=109&v=fVXxTS2f8CE
Go to the end of the video, at about the 1:26 mark.
There, you will see on the fantail end of the helo pad that we deployed our secret anti-ship weapon and its operator.
That’s right, the crew-served lawn chair, fully armed. The gunner is a Lazyboy First Class, likely with a SPF-50 firing solution.
To: IndispensableDestiny; DIRTYSECRET; SeekAndFind
It would be obvious to me that the Captain was on the bridge, I have little doubt of that.
Recovering helicopters. Russian vessel close aboard. I would bet a year’s pay the Captain was on the bridge, which is a good first step.
Your derogatory comments regarding navy operations are well warranted, even if some of us don’t like hearing them. Can’t argue there.
But if the US vessel was cruising straight and true while recovering its helicopter, it seems pretty apparent the Soviets...er...Russians were trying to cause an incident.
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posted on
06/07/2019 9:40:30 AM PDT
by
rlmorel
(Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
To: gandalftb
Pretty funny...but I think that is their Russian NATO designated LAZYBOY crew served antishipping weapon...
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posted on
06/07/2019 9:45:53 AM PDT
by
rlmorel
(Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
To: Mariner
This was ROUTINE in my day. Mine as well. Fun and games in the South China Sea.
To: rlmorel
Thank you for the correction.
That is a Russian lawn chair, NATO code named SLACKER.
To: SeekAndFind
Our navy always sounds pussified with this whining about an adversary being “unsafe and unprofessional”. Pinch off your nose when you say it and it sounds about right...like someone tattling to the teacher.
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posted on
06/07/2019 9:54:04 AM PDT
by
DesertRhino
(Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
To: mac_truck
CNN, once again using its top military analysts to parse the declassified video. The CNN "analyst" is horrible. I doubt they even know port from starboard.
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posted on
06/07/2019 9:55:10 AM PDT
by
Lou L
(Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
To: gandalftb
Heh, that was good...your post really got a snicker out of me.
Deadly serious stuff here, but...hey.
I remember standing on the ramp of the USS JFK behind our spotted planes waiting for a launch, and there was a Soviet vessel behind us. They were close enough you could clearly see their bridge lined with people observing us with binoculars.
Three or four of us turned around and dropped our drawers to say hello in the manner of the centuries-old custom...:)
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posted on
06/07/2019 9:58:35 AM PDT
by
rlmorel
(Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
To: Billthedrill; Mariner
Given the suntanning attack formation, perhaps Ivan was sipping a little Stoli?
To: SeekAndFind
Too bad it wasn’t the USS John S. McCain.
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posted on
06/07/2019 10:01:27 AM PDT
by
McGruff
To: Logical me
Russia is becoming ever more brazen. An incident is certain to happen before long and if we are not fully prepared to act to defend ourselves American credibility and prestige will be seriously damaged.
Strength is the only thing that is respected. If you don’t display that expect to be bullied.
I worry about the proliferation of political correctness into our military. It is weakening us.
To: DesertRhino
Our navy always sounds pussified with this whining
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To your point: We consider Russias actions during this interaction as unsafe and unprofessional, Doss said.
We consider? This interaction? This all sounds like something from a sterile academic paper.
He should have said: "This reckless provocation intentionally endangered our vessel. We will take action next time to defend our right to transit in these waters."
To: Logical me
Time to bring back “Looking Glass”, and Operation Chrome Dome.
Return the B-1B to full nuclear capability.
Give the B-52 the capability to launch nuclear armed cruise missiles.
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posted on
06/07/2019 10:22:53 AM PDT
by
2CAVTrooper
(I survive on Caffeine & Hate & sometimes Whiskey.)
To: SeekAndFind
The talking heads are going nuts as is if this was an act of war when in the past more serious and deadly events occured often with NO media knowledge or coverage. Even Shannahan just made a rare public comment on such a “non-event”. Someone is forcing an agenda, responding to a greater threat we are not aware of, or sublety preparing our nation for an actual armed conflict. China, Russia, Iran and others having some kind of orgy we were not invited to. Our Southern border collapsing and being infiltrated. I feel something “eeuuuge” is about to or IS going down. I think the media is playing right into their? Our? Hands. I fear the uninformed, easily misled masses will REALLY have something to cry about very soon.
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posted on
06/07/2019 10:25:07 AM PDT
by
Rainwave
(" Work out your OWN salvation with fear and trembling")
To: DIRTYSECRET
I was going to comment about something. Now, I can’t remember what it was after reading your outstanding page here on FR.
Excellent, excellent, excellent!
Airdalechief
To: rjsimmon
Lol. Youve been driving around Moscow.
To: TexasGator
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posted on
06/07/2019 11:00:25 AM PDT
by
Cincinnatus.45-70
(What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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