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Nevada's about to commit political suicide — is the Electoral College doomed?
The Hill ^ | 05/30/19 | Gary L. Gregg

Posted on 05/30/2019 11:33:59 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

Last week, 12 members of the Nevada state Senate voted to commit political suicide for their state and step the nation closer to an electoral transformation. They did it along partisan lines and with almost no one watching. If Gov. Steve Sisolak (D) signs the legislation, making Nevada a signatory to the National Popular Vote compact, the state will have resigned itself into presidential oblivion.

Just a few years ago, not many would have thought that a scheme to amend the Constitution without actually amending the Constitution, cooked up by the inventor of rub-off instant lottery ticket technology, would be taken seriously. Now it has passed into law in 14 states and the District of Columbia.

Here’s how the National Popular Vote plan is designed to work: Rather than go through Article V of the Constitution to amend the document itself, it would use an agreement between the states to give their electoral vote to the national popular vote winner, no matter how their own citizens vote. The compact is set to become operable when states accounting for a majority of the Electoral College votes (270 of 538) pass the compact. When Nevada enters the compact, supporters will be within 75 electoral votes of fundamentally transforming the American political order.

The plan will profoundly change our electoral system, by changing the incentives of our candidates. Those changes demand a serious national debate — but for now, let’s focus on what the Nevada Senate has just done to its own state and the people the Senate represents.

Nevada has been a fairly reliably competitive state in the 20th and 21st centuries. It has voted with the winner of the presidency more than 85 percent of the time since 1900. Since FDR’s first election, Democrats have won Nevada in 12 presidential elections and Republican candidates won it in 10. President Bush won it twice, but so did Barak Obama. Though the state has been moving more reliably Democratic, it has been a state that can often command the attention of candidates.

Never again. If the Democratic state leaders in Nevada get their way and the National Popular Vote compact becomes operable, the state will never again be important to a presidential candidate.

Let’s look at the numbers.

With the current Electoral College system, a close presidential election could hinge on Nevada’s six electoral votes. This gives the state some clout, which means its interests can gain some attention. If the state just gives away its six electors to whomever wins the national popular vote, Nevada will no longer have enough marginal votes to make it worth a candidates’ attention.

In competitive elections like 2016 and 2004, for instance, the candidates in Nevada were separated by less than 30,000 votes. Even in the blowout year of 2008 Obama only received roughly 120,000 votes more than John McCain — a margin few candidates will actually be able to hope to improve upon.

Compare those numbers with the margin Hillary Clinton racked up over Donald Trump in just one county in California; in Los Angeles County alone she received more than 1.6 million more votes than Donald Trump, and that was without even trying! All incentives for candidates to seek votes in Nevada will be eliminated if the Electoral College system is changed through the NPV plan.

The election in Nevada in 2016, in fact, is a good microcosm of what will happen to Nevada and other small and rural states if he NPV compact succeeds. Clinton did not win Nevada by traveling the state and appealing to a wide swath of the population. She won Nevada by winning a massive majority in just one county (and a slight plurality in one other). Where Clinton won the whole state by just 27,000 votes, she won more than 82,000 votes more than Trump simply in the county containing Los Vegas, and thereby won the state.

If those supporting the National Popular Vote initiative succeed, they will make all small and rural states like Nevada irrelevant in our national presidential conversation. In making these voters irrelevant, they also will be radicalizing our politics by centering ever more power in major urban centers, which already contribute most of the money fueling our campaigns and the media reporting on them.

And all this is happening within state legislatures without a serious national conversation that an actual amendment to the Constitution would demand — one that which our republic deserves.

Gary L. Gregg is editor of “Securing Democracy—Why We have an Electoral College” and holds the Mitch McConnell Chair in Leadership at the University of Louisville.


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: electoralcollege; faithlesselectors; latetothedance; nationalpopularvote; nevada; npv; sisolak; stevesisolak
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1 posted on 05/30/2019 11:33:59 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen
The Nev. Governor has vetoed the bill.
2 posted on 05/30/2019 11:35:21 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (If you are not interested you will see nothing but the road you walk on.-Jim Corbett)
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To: yesthatjallen

Vetoed already.


3 posted on 05/30/2019 11:35:21 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (September 11, 2001 : Never forget, never forgive.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Fortunately he vetoed
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3753248/posts


4 posted on 05/30/2019 11:35:41 AM PDT by Hieronymus ("I shall drink--to the Pope, if you please,-still, to Conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.")
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To: yesthatjallen

The federal Voting Rights lawsuit needs to be to disqualify all of these states’ electoral votes from being counted in the total.


5 posted on 05/30/2019 11:35:50 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: 4yearlurker

If you weren’t so long-winded, you wouldn’t have posted at the same time as post 3.


6 posted on 05/30/2019 11:37:37 AM PDT by Hieronymus ("I shall drink--to the Pope, if you please,-still, to Conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.")
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To: yesthatjallen

Already vetoed.

Fail of an article.


7 posted on 05/30/2019 11:37:58 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: yesthatjallen

I’m a strong believer in the Electoral College and what they are doing is really doing us all a disservice.

But I believe Trump will win the popular vote this year and I delight in thinking they will have to support him in the EC.

Serves them right.


8 posted on 05/30/2019 11:37:59 AM PDT by Hang'emAll (If guns kill people, do pencils misspell words?)
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To: 4yearlurker
State legislature just virtue signaling here. They probably knew ahead of time the governor would veto but wanted to make a "statement" nonetheless.

If Trump wins the popular vote in 2020, you will hear nary a peep from anybody on this nonsense ever again. Guaranteed.

9 posted on 05/30/2019 11:38:04 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: yesthatjallen

If these popular vote jackasses want the constitutional compact to be broken then, fine, keep on this path. However: Disenfranchising me is going to make me very angry. Very very angry. Very very very angry.


10 posted on 05/30/2019 11:39:25 AM PDT by TalBlack (Damn right I'll "do something" you fat, balding son of a bitch!)
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To: yesthatjallen

No worries. If enough lib states do this to constitute 270 EV (and lib states are the only ones that want this), then Kentucky, Tennessee, Utah, and so on, can suddenly discover 38 million (R) votes in someone’s trunk each and every election. Fight fire with fire. Libs are stupid, use that to your advantage.


11 posted on 05/30/2019 11:41:55 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: yesthatjallen
We have to get the truth out, the national popular vote is really only California.

It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California

Sadly media has made it seem unfair, that the majority of Americans didn't win. But if you watch any replay of 2016 election night you'll notice Trump won on national popular right through the end.

12 posted on 05/30/2019 11:42:03 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: yesthatjallen

What’s to stop other states from refusing to show thier popular vote talleys until after certification?


13 posted on 05/30/2019 11:44:06 AM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government...)
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To: Kenny
It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California

.....assuming she actually won the PV.

14 posted on 05/30/2019 11:44:18 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Hang'emAll

“But I believe Trump will win the popular vote this year and I....”

There’s no way in H Trump will win the popular vote this year and you can take that to the bank.


15 posted on 05/30/2019 11:44:33 AM PDT by Justa
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To: yesthatjallen

The EC is the firewall that protects us from deep blue states like Kalifornia that harbor millions of illegal voters.


16 posted on 05/30/2019 11:45:01 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Trump: "America will never be a socialist country!")
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To: TaxPayer2000

Or just play the game by lib rules and actually turn this to your advantage. See my 11


17 posted on 05/30/2019 11:45:09 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: kaehurowing
The federal Voting Rights lawsuit needs to be to disqualify all of these states’ electoral votes from being counted in the total.

I think this National Popular Vote initiative is a very bad idea for all the reasons listed. I also think it will be ignored by the 'blue' states the minute a Republican gets a majority of the national popular vote.

However, it does not take a Constitutional amendment to do this. The Constitution establishes that the states get to decide how to apportion their electors, and if they choose to do so on the basis of how other states voted rather than on how their own citizens voted, then they have that authority.

Declaring it to be unConstitutional dilutes the strong arguments on how it will swing all the power in electing Presidents to the big, populous states and smaller states will lose all voice (and candidate interest). I have seen too many threads that get wrapped up in the Constitutionality argument instead of the real issue.

However, it's also a non issue. The deep blue states will go for it, but their electoral votes were always going for the collectivist candidate anyway. The 'swing' states have not been lining up for this, and if the collectivists had control of the additional 75 electoral votes needed to get this measure approved, they wouldn't need it in the first place.
18 posted on 05/30/2019 11:46:32 AM PDT by Phlyer
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To: TalBlack

You’ve already been disenfranchised, clearly, and have been for quite some time now. Jus’ sayin’. I’m not sure what an outright popular vote would signify, other than more of the same, on steroids, with a double dose of Owsley and a Jimson weed chaser.


19 posted on 05/30/2019 11:47:14 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Hieronymus

Say what?


20 posted on 05/30/2019 11:47:55 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (If you are not interested you will see nothing but the road you walk on.-Jim Corbett)
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