Posted on 05/24/2019 3:44:17 PM PDT by DoodleBob
“There is still money in music.”
For most people, no, there isn’t any real money. Crap wages. Music has become a commodity. Free music online everywhere. Glut of people wanting to perform with venues paying less and less. There is decent money for exceptional talent but not for most bands.
Glad I looked. That was the first thing I thought of!
The market value of the product is ZERO. The industry is destroyed. As a former musician, my only hope is for Hollywood to soon suffer the same fate. It would be worth losing my former job to see them fall.
“But what if the robots are better at all the creative activities...”
Interesting question. Over time I would think AI will be capable of some interesting music. However my guess is it will be used mainly to produce mass market lowest common denominator music. But people should be able to program it to produce whatever style/styles they like.
“The market value of the product is ZERO. The industry is destroyed.”
Yep. When you see big name musicians whining about their licensing profits you know it’s bad.
If someone went around to clubs they would see lots of bands. You would see countless musicians on youtube. The music is still being created because that is what some people are driven to do. But there is little money to be made when the public has become conditioned to free music.
Omega’s are Xr’s been around a bit. Great band. I’ll check the other cats out. I know I’m being hard on the adderol generation. I provoke them on purpose. They need fingers in their chests until they can create a Black Flag.
As I wrote elsewhere, the best bet for finding new music is right down your street, in the local bar that supports live music.
All your song are belong to us.
The only reason this is even slightly possible is that commercialization and degradation of product quality have made it feasible to have this product designed by a machine.
An industry producing real music would have no machine problem now or at any point in the future.
What *does* bother me (and, as you're a musician you hopefully agree) is that there ARE good bands out there, but everyone is staying home. Back in the day, it was easy to get 30 friends out to a bar to see your band. They might have even paid $5 for your CD and $10 for your shirt. Nowadays, you have to REALLY look hard not just to get 5-10 people to come out, but to find live music, period.
That said, I make it a point to venture out and check out new, fresh, live music. $10 gets me 3-5 bands a night. Most of the time, the bands aren't good but every now and then, you find a good one. Every year you find a GREAT one - the last great one I saw was Port City Saints (they're a bit older, and a bit lefty, but an awesome live act). Our FRiend Yaelle said her son got some deal in the LA area where he pays a fixed sum each month and gets to go to several bars for live music...whatta bargain!
Therefore, when I hear middle-aged guys like me whine about the state of music today (and, again, it's not without merit) while they listen to The Band on their iPhone, I try to poke them to get off their butt, and into the bar. Otherwise, in 20 years rock will be totally dead and we'll be listening to AI-written dreck.
And yes...if it's too loud, you're too old. Thanks for listening.
There is no question that recording and editing on a PC/Mac is way easier than cutting up 1" reel-to-reel tape. But having listened to RTR, I can say nothing can be it for sound reproduction.
Drinking age lowered back to 18. Problem solved. That’s the only time kids like RUSH and Van Halen could get the scratch needed to keep going.
This was predicted in hundreds of articles in the late nineties written by musicians, economists, and computer journalists.
The Sun Records studio where Elvis Presley, Johnny Cash, and Carl Perkins recorded their early records cost between three and five million dollars (depending on whether or not you counted rental instruments) at that time.
By nineteen ninety-eight a musician with technical ability could build a studio of equivalent quality and capability for about twenty-eight thousand dollars. In the twenty years since then the cost has plunged drastically.
The money that was in music depended on that towering wall of costs preventing everyone who simply wanted to be heard from taking a shot.
Now music is recorded by whoever wishes. A vast army of music lovers listens to new music and filters out the dreck (with scathing vulgar attacks on the music they don't like) through dedicated forums and social media.
Professional performers have to compete with talented amateurs who have a day job. And if you look back to before that first scratchy wax cylinder...we have come full circle.
All the kings horses, as it were.
Greta van Fleet is sheisse. A pathetic led zep cover band devoid of talent or any other redeeming feature.
No, I am not the least bit impressed with them.
Cheap and cheezy.
He supported Thatcher, and for a brief while called himself a Tory. The British music press was nasty about it, so he kept his mouth shut about politics thereafter.
“As I said in my first post, music has returned to what it was before the dawn of radio, and the birth of recorded music”
I don’t agree with your first line so we’ll just have to disagree and leave it at that. Music hasn’t returned to anything and I doubt it ever will.
Over the past twenty years my original songs have been downloaded thousands of times off of the various music platforms. I have sold music worldwide.
The money I have seen from all these downloads wouldnt buy a quality guitar.
For each download I am paid fractional cents, (and artists thought that record labels were ripping them off - ha).
Plus I figure for each paid download there are at least 10 copies spawned for free.
Luckily I have a very lucrative day job.
All the great songs have already been written. The only good music today is being written by Christian artists. Kinda like 200 years ago.
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