Posted on 05/20/2019 12:40:29 PM PDT by SMGFan
21 to smoke 16 to vote, figure that one out. Ask yourself, which one is more dangerous to the health of the country?
Raise the voting age to 21 the way it used to be.
STOP INFANTILIZING AMERICAN CITIZENS! I am SICK of them always raising the minimum age on EVERYTHING except voting!
I started smoking at 16. It wasn’t legal for me to buy cigarettes. It might amaze some lawmakers but I didn’t give a fat politician’s rear end if it was legal or not. I guess I was a really weird teenager.
Don’t these people have any real work to do?
This only puts an exclamation point on how worthless Congress has become.
What’s the Federal government got to do with when people get to start sucking nicotine?
Leave it to the States.
Mitch, such a stunt is inconsistent with the 26th Amendment. And it won’t make you more popular in your heavily tobacco-oriented state.
Tobacco BAAAAAAAAD!
Stats’s violating federal law on legalizing weed GOOOOD!
My Body, My Choice apparently doesn’t apply if I want to vape. A 14-year-old can force a doctor to castrate them, and to give them life-threatening drugs, but god forbid we let them vape.
With alcohol, the argument was that teens were drinking and driving and killing innocent people. By raising the age to 21, it was less likely a 17-yo would be friends with a person old enough to buy booze.
But that was predicated on the harm to innocent 3rd parties. No 3rd party is in danger if a 16-yo is vaping. Innocent people are much more at risk because we let teenagers have cell phones.
(In fact, cell phones kill more kids than cigarette smoking).
How about raising the voting age back to 21!
They need to settle on an age of majority where all rights of citizenship are bestowed.
Surprised to hear they still grow tobacco in KY. When I was a kid in 70s, tobacco fields were all over rural KY. But nowadays I never see a tobacco field. All seems to be corn or soybeans.
~$385 million crop in KY.
https://www.farmflavor.com/kentucky/kentucky-agribusiness/kentucky-agriculture-top-10/
Id bet tobacco used to be #1
Probably.
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponents Argument
Regardless what FDRs state sovereignty-ignoring activist Supreme Court justices wanted everybody to think about the scope of Congress Commerce Clause powers (1.8.3) when they wrongly decided Wickard v. Filburn in Congresss favor imo, patriots are reminded that a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting justices had clarified the following.
State sovereignty-respecting justices had emphasized the already clear meaning of the Commerce Clause, that INTRAstate Commerce is hands-off to Congress.
"Article I, Section 8, Clause 3: To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;"
"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added]." -Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]. United States v. Butler, 1936.
In fact, note that in order to prohibit the intrastate sale of alcoholic beverages in the early 20th century, Congress had to first successfully do the following.
Congress successfully petitioned the states for an amendment to the Constitution giving Congress the specific power to prohibit sale of alcoholic beverages, something that corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification career lawmakers have failed to do regarding the proposed bill to regulate cigarette sales.
"18th Amendment, Section 1 of 3: After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited."
Also, noting that the proposed cigarette sales bill will be introduced in the name of health reasons, consider that regardless what the Supreme Court wanted everybody to think about the constitutionality of Obamacare, the Court somehow "overlooked" that he Gibbons v. Ogden excerpt above (shown below) had also clarified that neither have the states given the feds the power no regulate intrastate healthcare.
"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added]." Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
Remember in November 2020!
MAGA!
Must be 21 to buy cigarettes, but to have an abortion or pick your gender no age limit. According to Pelosi 16 is old enough to vote, but your too immature to choose to smoke cigarettes.
I smell hypocrisy
The democrat-run state of Illinois passed a bill raising the age to buy tobacco from 18 to 21 effective July 1. I work in a convenience store and there are a lot of 18-19 year olds who buy cigarettes and blunts. When I tell them about the new law I advise them to thank their parents for voting democrat.
Anything to make it look like theyre working?
Wonder how long it took them to plow through junk to land on this topic to go for.
Mitch should know better.........
.......Kaine is just an ugly nothing nowhere creepola who is just trying to distract the Senate so serious business cant get done!!!
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