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To: HiTech RedNeck

Culture is faith. Faith is Culture.

Read some old books. The Catholic Church did not like America because
1. She was a decedent of their hated enemy, Britain.
2. They viewed the founding philosophy as Masonic, Satanic, and therefore evil (as they viewed Great Britain).
3. Many early American politicians did not want Catholic immigrants for the above reasons, and worked to limit or exclude them (they did the same with German Lutherans who did not conform until forced to by gunpoint around WWI).

That is culture.

The Catholic Church as a political organization has been around for a long time. They did not survive this long with out having the ability to play the game with the best of them. So that is why in the USA they are on the lay level very much anti-christian and in places like Africa very much pro-christian.

Simply put, I have never seen a single “Catholic” pol be excommunicated for abortion. I have seen it threatened by the Pope himself over illegal immigration. Sit back and think about the culture, the politics, and the long term strategy about those stands.

On a personal level, my very devout Catholic mother in law is VERY pro life. She volunteers at local prolife shelters. She has told me many times that is her prime consideration in politics. However, while she may not vote for the dem, she will never vote for he GOP because “That would be anti Catholic”.

My mother in law is not an outlier


51 posted on 05/20/2019 1:43:25 PM PDT by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian.)
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To: redgolum

Well, as one of those rascally fundamentalist evangelicals, I’ve seen the importance of always choosing the stance of Christianity if culture differs from it. Doing otherwise would be to be unfaithful to the Lord, with its unhappy consequences.

On the other hand, I can’t be believing fallacies or overbroad generalizations. Feuds and friendships between the church and politicians of long ago have zero to do with what Christians ought to be doing now. Politicians and political trends and tendencies change. The bible stays the same.

It is absolutely silly for a church to proclaim that it’s clinging to a particular political party for aye.


52 posted on 05/20/2019 3:11:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (May Jesus Christ be praised.)
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