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Should men have a say in the abortion debate?(hurl alert)
BBC News ^ | 18th May 2019 | Ritu Prasad

Posted on 05/19/2019 1:36:08 PM PDT by Ennis85

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To: Sacajaweau; Ennis85
Decision? Not when it comes tollife or death. There's no "decision," since neither the woman nor the man, nor both of them together, has a moral right to destroy the child.

Their offspring is their child, but not their property. Human beings cannot be property. We decided that via a Civil War over 100 years ago.

21 posted on 05/19/2019 3:13:24 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Abortion does not call into question the unborn baby's humanity, but our own.)
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To: Lopeover
I understand what you're saying about the man not having a choice in the abortion question, but wouldn't say there's "no" guilt on the man's part.

A man who deposits 300 million live sperm into the genital tract of a fertile woman who might be abortion-minded, cannot be said to have made his choices with true due diligence.

I understand the point that he cannot be held responsible for her choices, but he is responsible for his own choice, which was to engage in sexual contact which has a known causal relationship to human procreation.

This is not a trivial choice. It doesn't just engage him for a moment or a night, but potentially for the rest of his life, and into eternity.

22 posted on 05/19/2019 3:21:40 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Abortion does not call into question the unborn baby's humanity, but our own.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Bingo.
If it’s solely the woman’s choice to abort, then shouldn’t she pay for her own abortion?
And conversely, isn’t it also solely the woman’s choice to bear the child? So shouldn’t she pay for its support if she chooses no further involvement by the father ?

Reminds me of that old Peggy Lee song : Get Outta Here, and Get Me Some Money, Too.

Perhaps if men— and taxpayers— made these women live up to their own slogans, ie “Her body, her choice,” women would be more choosy BEFORE a pregnancy occurs.


23 posted on 05/19/2019 4:10:19 PM PDT by mumblypeg
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To: Mrs. Don-o

If he is consciously aware. Many are not or ever will be while alive on the earth.


24 posted on 05/19/2019 8:10:32 PM PDT by Lopeover (We Are #TRUMPSTRONG)
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To: Ennis85

Should illegal immigrants be able to protest and even vote in America?

Or should the decision of what to do about our border be reserved for legal citizens of this nation?


25 posted on 05/19/2019 10:10:08 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: Ennis85

They already did when they decided Rowe v. Wade?


26 posted on 05/19/2019 10:45:11 PM PDT by Anima Mundi (Breathes there a man with soul so dead...)
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To: Ennis85

So, it’s her baby when she wants to kill it? But, it’s his when she wants money (child support) for it?


27 posted on 05/19/2019 10:53:29 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: AzNASCARfan

If that is their line of reasoning, use it against them: women have no right to make decisions in matters pertaining to national defense, the military, or national defense since those are matters that directly affect men.


28 posted on 05/21/2019 7:07:17 PM PDT by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all anti-semites.)
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If I see or hear the argument made again, I will just ask them if they are talking about Roe Vs Wade... because it could not possibly be the Alabama law. since that bill was sponsored by a woman and also signed into law by another woman... It was Roe Vs Wade that was decided by an all male consensus.


29 posted on 05/22/2019 1:29:10 PM PDT by AzNASCARfan
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