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The coming civil war over abortion: This time, it's not over slavery
Christian Post ^ | 05/17/2019 | Michael Brown

Posted on 05/17/2019 7:59:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 05/17/2019 7:59:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
The coming civil war over abortion: This time, it's not over slavery

It wasn't over slavery the last time either. That is just useful propaganda created to justify the invasion of states. It was after the fact excuse making for Dictatorial excess.

2 posted on 05/17/2019 8:01:36 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no o<ither sovereignty.")
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To: SeekAndFind

See my tag line.

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3 posted on 05/17/2019 8:02:15 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It not a civil war, it’s a battle about morality.

the godless have no basis for immorality, and they see none — except where a desired act is judged immoral or contrary to their desires.

Absent God, there is only power and the will to enforce false moralities.

This is the second oldest battle in Creation.


4 posted on 05/17/2019 8:02:20 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: SeekAndFind

-Abortion
-Gun control
-Socialism
-Free Speech
-Property Rights
-Taxation
-Appropriation
-Entitlements
-Promoting and Mandating Deviance
-Outlawing Christianity/Judaism
-Illegal aliens
et cetera, et cetera, et cetera


5 posted on 05/17/2019 8:03:59 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is absolutely unconscionable that the left will destroy the country and want to kill those who oppose the killing of babies.


6 posted on 05/17/2019 8:04:54 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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I hope will all my heart that it will not be a physically violent war

It is a war to stop the ongoing murdering of babies. It is already a physically violent war. The left made sure of that. The response should be equal or greater in magnitude.

7 posted on 05/17/2019 8:05:39 AM PDT by sipow
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“...It is absolutely unconscionable ...”

That’s because you’re starting with the assumption that the Left actually HAS a conscience to begin with.

They don’t. They don’t CARE.

Start from the fact that they will do anything and everything to you, your family, and any like you, to gain power.

And then treat them accordingly - as they existential threat to your life and liberty that they are.

It IS and always HAS BEEN a war. And they understand that better than our side has been willing to.


8 posted on 05/17/2019 8:10:51 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: sipow
It is already a physically violent war

Good point

9 posted on 05/17/2019 8:13:34 AM PDT by RatRipper
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To: SeekAndFind

Wait until Trump nominates Coney Barrett.


10 posted on 05/17/2019 8:17:07 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: DiogenesLamp

White woman are upset that fewer black babies will be aborted.

There fixed it.


11 posted on 05/17/2019 8:18:36 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: SeekAndFind

The Democrat Party Prime Directive for the past fifty years: Kill the baby.


12 posted on 05/17/2019 8:21:43 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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Don’t see what they have to stand on as far as a moral high ground.

Can’t kill people, abortion is killing people.

Can’t kill the poor to help poverty, abortion kills poor people

Can’t call it not a human being, its not a vegetable growing in the womb.

Can’t consider women as the only victims, abortion transfers the tyranny of the strong over the week from women to their innocent children.

Am I missing something?

Oh yeah, can’t impose a sentence on women to carry a baby to term, because somehow the baby is at fault for being there. If its not rape, she is responsible for it being their by her actions. If it is rape, then legally we should treat both the mother and the child as victims and I am fine with a social aid for rape cases. I’m more in favor of legal obligations a perpetrator has to those who are their victims of rape.


13 posted on 05/17/2019 8:25:50 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: DiogenesLamp

Look this is nothing like slavery and don’t even make the comparison

No human being is indentured and forced to do labor and his property of another human being in this case

The hyperbole in you media types is completely and utterly pathetic

Now on the issue of life it is a critical issue of importance to the moral fabric of this or any society

The forces of life mostly Christian are loving kind generous and patient

We use kindness and patience in our protesting to try to convince little girls not to murder their baby

The other side minions of Satan have to take up the position of trying to convince little girls to murder their baby merely for “convenience”

Let them have at it

There will be no shooting war with 700,000 over young and best man dead

There will be no families put it against families shooting at each other

There will be no constitutional amendments passed two for bid things that went on

This is a spiritual war

This is a war of words and actions


14 posted on 05/17/2019 8:32:54 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: DiogenesLamp

It wasn’t over slavery the last time either. That is just useful propaganda created to justify the invasion of states.


I’m going to disagree with you here. Of course it was over slavery. Lincoln did not even appear on the ballot in the slave states (sound familiar?) Virtually all of the politics of the 1850s was over slavery. Southerners were afraid that the new Republican party was going to restrict slavery. There was no Constitutional way to end slavery in South short of Constitutional amendment which of course the south would never agree too.

Lincoln couldn’t say the war was over slavery because he had no legal way to achieve that end, so for the first half of the war the goal was to preserve the Union. For the first part of the war the army was ordered to return runaway slaves to their owners. Lincoln then seized on the idea that the slaves were helping the southern war effort and could legally be declared ‘contraband’ and not returned to their owners. From that, Lincoln moved to the Emancipation Proclamation which carefully excluded slaves in states that hadn’t seceded (MO, MD, KY, DE) and areas under Union control (parts of TN & LA).

Bottom line, whatever might be said, the Civil War was all about slavery. The parallels with the abortion debate are striking. At the same time that you have states (NY & VA) guaranteeing abortion up to the moment of birth (and perhaps a bit after) and lighting up buildings celebrating the fact, you have other states banning the procedure in hopes of reversing a SCOTUS decision which discovered the “right” hiding in a penumbra of a right to privacy.


15 posted on 05/17/2019 8:41:52 AM PDT by hanamizu
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“A civil war is certain.”

He can’t be serious. Or he doesn’t know what a civil war is. 60 MILLION children have already been slaughtered, where are the torches and pitchforks, the legions, the militia, the tanks, the battles?

You couldn’t raise a quorum to wage a true war in America today.

Why, it would slow down the internet, interrupt cell service, and might even preempt your favorite shows.


16 posted on 05/17/2019 8:44:00 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: hanamizu
Lincoln couldn’t say the war was over slavery because he had no legal way to achieve that end,

Based on his actions, he clearly had no intention of achieving that end when he started the war.

The Ghost Amendment that Haunts Lincoln's Legacy.

Bottom line, whatever might be said, the Civil War was all about slavery.

If it was all about slavery, why was Lincoln trying to give them all the protection for slavery they could possibly want?

If it was all about slavery, why didn't they take the deal?

17 posted on 05/17/2019 8:46:55 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no o<ither sovereignty.")
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To: hanamizu

The civil War was not about slavery. The south seceded when it realized that it would a permanent political minority.

Lincoln switched from maintaining the union as a war goal to abolishing slavery because of the appalling casualties. He needed a moral reason to justify the massive amount of deaths.


18 posted on 05/17/2019 8:58:03 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul (s)
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This is more idolatry than anything else. The ancient Israelites used to murder their babies as a sacrifice to the false “gods” Baal and Molech and they were condemned by the real God for their evil. Now they’re sacrificing their babies to an even worse false “god,” i.e., self.


19 posted on 05/17/2019 8:59:19 AM PDT by afsnco (18 of 20 in AF JAG)
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To: SeekAndFind

The parallels between the conflict over the Second Amendment’s guarantee to bear arms and the made up abortion rights in Roe are stark, but I don’t think abortion will spark a civil war.

There is nothing stopping an Alabama woman from going to NYC and aborting her 9 month old baby just before birth.


20 posted on 05/17/2019 9:02:53 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul (s)
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