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White Males and Abortion ^ | May 17, 2019 | Mona Charen

Posted on 05/17/2019 3:19:09 AM PDT by Kaslin

Sen. Doug Jones, D-Ala., tweeted in response to anti-abortion legislation passed by the Alabama legislature: "I refuse to believe that these Republican men represent the views of most Alabamians. Their action is both unconstitutional and shameful. The people of Alabama deserve to be on the #rightsideofhistory -- not the side of extremists. Women deserve better."

It seems much more likely that Jones is the one who is out of step. A 2014 Pew poll found that Alabama is among the most "pro-life" states in the country, with 58 percent saying the procedure should be illegal in "all or most cases." It's possible that among the 58 percent who oppose abortion in Alabama, some will find the legislation passed this week to be too extreme, but don't count on it. Just last year, voters approved a state constitutional amendment declaring that it is "the public policy of this state to recognize and support the sanctity of unborn life and the rights of unborn children." Fifty-nine percent of voters voted in favor.

Since the vote making abortion illegal in Alabama, Republican members of the Alabama senate have been targets of accusations -- mostly that they are male and white. A number of outlets pointed to the fact that all 25 votes in favor of legislation were white male Republicans. OK. But the Alabama house has lots of Republican women. The bill's sponsor in the lower chamber was a woman, as was the governor who signed the bill.

Those who fixate on the "problem" of whiteness may think this is some sort of knockout blow, but the truth is that these senators are accurately representing the views of their constituents, including women. A 2018 PRRI survey found that 60 percent of Republican women agreed with the statement, "Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided and should be overturned." This compared with only 47 percent of Republican men. Democratic pollster Celinda Lake notes that women tend to be more religious than men, and this aligns with more conservative views on abortion.

Still, partisan lines remain blurry on abortion. More than a third of Republicans favor keeping abortion legal. Until Brett Kavanaugh's ascension to the Supreme Court, the issue may not have ranked very high for them. They could vote for Republicans -- with whom they agree on other issues -- safe in the knowledge that nothing would threaten the regime of legal abortion throughout the nation. Now that the Court has a possible majority for overturning Roe, the calculations of moderate Republicans may change.

Moderate Democrats may be out in the cold, too. In the aftermath of the 2018 election, Democrats burst from the gate with legislation that expanded abortion even beyond Roe's contours. New York passed the Reproductive Health Act that permits even late-term abortions in the "absence of fetal viability, or (when) the abortion is necessary to protect the patient's life or health." When health is interpreted to mean "mental health," it opens a gaping loophole. Sometimes late-term pregnancies must be terminated to save the mother's physical health, but that doesn't mean an abortion is required. Even very premature infants commonly survive these days.

Democrats also painted themselves as abortion extremists by opposing the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, insisting -- falsely -- that these abortions are only performed when there are severe fetal abnormalities or when the mother's life is at risk.

But now Republicans risk being viewed as extremists. With seven states having passed abortion laws that may transgress the boundaries established by Roe, the question now is whether the "pro-life" cause is best served by this frontal assault strategy. The Alabama law makes no exceptions for cases of rape or incest. And while it's true that the child bears no guilt for the way he or she was conceived, it may not be prudent to refuse to concede that ground. A 2018 Gallup poll found that 77 percent of respondents want abortion to be legal in cases of rape and incest. The exception has long been included in other "pro-life" legislation, like the Hyde Amendment.

Whatever happens, these stirrings at the state level may provoke an overdue reckoning about the truth of abortion. It isn't rare. It is usually performed on perfectly healthy mothers and babies. And it isn't the only alternative for women unable to raise a child. There are 36 couples waiting for an adoptive child for every one placed. Why is that humane solution so commonly overlooked?

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: abortion; alabama; douchejones; dougjones; infanticide; medicareforall; obamacare; prolife; roymoore

1 posted on 05/17/2019 3:19:10 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

In the skunk liberal playbook blaming and pointing a finger at the problem and away from themselves is their mantra. The governor of Alabama who signed it into law is a white women, if only she were black, ha!

2 posted on 05/17/2019 3:22:07 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (
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To: Kaslin
The founders established a federal government of limited and enumerated powers. The power to prohibit states from legislating about abortion is neither enumerated nor implied in the Constitution. The rest of the legislative powers are left to the states. The legislative powers are left to the states, not to the Supreme Court.

The framers established a federal system of government in order to temper the risks of mob rule on the one hand or tyrannical rule on the other hand. The federal system was designed to permit democracy in the state and to prevent tyranny on the federal level.

By rank legislative sleight-of-hand, the Supreme Court held that the power of the state to prohibit abortion was not a matter for a state to decide democratically, rather it was a matter for nine be-robed justices alone to decide because they discovered somewhere in the Constitution a right of privacy which they defined to include abortion.

This opinion ranks among the two or three opinions most devoid of constitutional justification ever rendered by the Supreme Court. When federalism is destroyed, democracy is destroyed, oligarchy is empowered.

When the Supreme Court rewrites the Constitution babies die.

3 posted on 05/17/2019 3:44:04 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: Kaslin

Those white males are fighting to outlaw a practice that disproportionately kills black children; it would be nice if more blacks would help them politically.

Since they won’t, blacks should get used to being surrounded by the Asians and Hispanics trafficked here to replace those missing black (and white) children.

4 posted on 05/17/2019 3:46:15 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Kaslin

The rape exception is a giant loophole, if all she has to do is claim rape at the time of abortion. There would need to be a requirement of her having made a police report within a week of the alleged rape.

Incest would also need to be done under penalty of perjury.

5 posted on 05/17/2019 4:13:29 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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>>The people of Alabama deserve to be on the #rightsideofhistory — not the side of extremists. Women deserve better.”

Over 50 million American babies have been murdered. Your genocide campaign is more deadly than life under Hitler or Stalin or Mao.

YOU are on the wrong side of history.

CHILDREN deserve better.

6 posted on 05/17/2019 4:21:44 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: Kaslin

Under this law, will all miscarriages need to be investigated to confirm that an abortion did not take place?

7 posted on 05/17/2019 4:22:25 AM PDT by oincobx
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To: Kaslin
Mona "race baiting" Charen

There is hardly a reference to "white" AND "males"

I thought there was some sort of argument for or against abortion from a white man's viewpoint.

I'LL give you one then;

Abortion is murder, a word reserved for human beings .... we don't murder Sundays chicken dinner.

ANYone can and should have an opinion about what the murder of a human being is.

8 posted on 05/17/2019 4:55:06 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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To: Kaslin

It’s White Men, “white males” is a laboratory term, but then again Mona is protecting the right flank of cultural marxism so what can we expect.

9 posted on 05/17/2019 5:15:11 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: nathanbedford

I recall reading somewhere that many legal minds consider (and not necessarily or exclusively because it involved abortion) that Roe v Wade was so poorly constructed and contrived on many fronts, as per the items that you mentioned in your post. Seems as bad as what Dred Scott was.

10 posted on 05/17/2019 5:40:30 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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To: ronnie raygun

It was white males in England and the United States, using their own blood, treasure, and sacred honor, that put an end to slavery among civilized nations.

Come to think of it, white males are responsible for most of western civilization.

History may not repeat, but it does rhyme.

11 posted on 05/17/2019 7:18:27 AM PDT by Natty (We are the dangerous ones, who stand between all we love and a more dangerous world.)
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To: OttawaFreeper
You are quite right, Roe vs. Wade is among the most reviled Supreme Court decisions probably even exceeding Dred Scott which many have credited with being a cause of the Civil War. The Civil War cost about 600,000 lives but Roe has cost about 60 million.

Even if Roe were overturned tomorrow, the effect would be only to return the matter to the states and, with the clutch-hold possessed by the Democratic Party over red states, leftists could continue merrily aborting babies at a rate which should satisfy even their blood lust.

12 posted on 05/17/2019 7:48:13 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: Kaslin; LS; Impy; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; Clemenza; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; SunkenCiv; dp0622; ...

Terrible, terrible. You should resign immediately, Jones, and go to a state that worships infanticide as you do.

13 posted on 05/17/2019 9:39:14 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj
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