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ICYMI: FL Armed Teachers Law Goes Into Effect In October
Townhall,com ^ | March 16, 2019 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 05/16/2019 11:18:53 AM PDT by Kaslin

Well, the debate is over. The voting is done. And the bill has been signed into law. Florida will now permit armed teachers in the classroom. It’s a win for gun rights advocates. Florida is still reeling from the tragic shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland from last year, where shooter Nikolas Cruz shot and killed 17 people. It’s the reality we live in, folks. Since we’re not going to repeal the Second Amendment or enact a policy of confiscation, everything must be on the table to keep schools safe. Also, we cannot forget that America is not a shooting gallery. Schools have never been safer. With proper training, a policy of arming teachers isn’t an extreme policy. Having armed guards staffed by former military veterans or the local police are also a fine alternative. 

The fact of the matter is that Parkland was avoidable. The list of the times local, state, and federal authorities failed to act on Cruz, who was deeply disturbed, is lengthy and maddening. If the government had done its job, there is no doubt he would not have been able to purchase the AR-15 rifle he used to commit the shooting.  

Well, Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis has signed the legislation into law. On October 1, armed teachers goes into effect, with participation based on approval by the various school boards (via Tampa Bay Times):

[T]he 54-page Senate Bill 7030 sparked days of debate and was one of the most contentious bills of the 2019 legislative session, DeSantis drew as little attention as possible in making it law, holding no news conference or ceremony. Instead, his office blasted a late afternoon, two-paragraph email stating that he signed it at some point Wednesday, the same day that he had received it from the Legislature.

The law goes into effect Oct. 1.

For teachers and other staff to be armed, school districts must opt-in to the so-called “Guardian program,” which allows teachers and other staff to volunteer to carry a gun on campus after getting screened and trained by a sheriff’s office. That program was passed by state lawmakers last year in response to the Feb. 14 Parkland massacre, but it didn’t allow teachers who “exclusively perform classroom duties” to carry guns, partly on the urging of former Gov. Rick Scott.

There has to be more on mental health, but this is a good start.


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KEYWORDS: banglist; florida; gunrights; secondamendment
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To: papertyger

They will find another way to attack.


21 posted on 05/16/2019 12:02:06 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
They will find another way to attack.

How is that relevant when we're trying to defend against THIS kind of mass school shooting attack?

22 posted on 05/16/2019 12:07:05 PM PDT by papertyger (You can respect women, or you can understand women: you can not do both.)
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To: 1Old Pro

The crazy, like the poor, will always be with us.


23 posted on 05/16/2019 12:16:34 PM PDT by gasport (The dung beatle should be the symbol of the Democrat Party)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Fewer attacks or less bloodshed.
Fewer gallons or less water.
24 posted on 05/16/2019 12:22:00 PM PDT by arthurus (ghj)
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To: Guenevere
I think the law says school districts may allow arming of teachers and staff. South Florida will likely not go along with that.

It is a tenet of the Liberal Religion that it is much more righteous that many students be killed than that a teacher be armed or, even worse, shoot back. I am not being satirical. Liberals believe that it is not immoral for a killer to mow down a lot of people because the killer has mental health issues and is thus not responsible for his actions. It is highly immoral for a person to defend himself or others with violence because that person is acting rationally and is obviously not crazy and is therefore responsible for taking a human life. I have had this argument with liberal acquaintances, one a now deceased professor at UF. A liberal who thinks all the way through will even posit that those students and teachers who would have died had the killer not been stopped by a citizen with a gun should have died and are therefore wrongfully alive.

25 posted on 05/16/2019 12:31:40 PM PDT by arthurus (ghj)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

FEWER victims. Less victims would be inferior victims. If the noun being quantified is plural FEWER is correct. If the noun is singular LESS is correct i.e. Less water and fewer gallons of water.


26 posted on 05/16/2019 12:34:33 PM PDT by arthurus (rw)
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To: Eleutheria5

It will be hard to undermine in Florida. Arming teachers will not be permitted in South Florida. It is a local option thing, I think.


27 posted on 05/16/2019 12:36:12 PM PDT by arthurus (vd)
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To: papertyger

Bombs are easier to detect beforehand and historically are less likely to to go actually bang than guns.


28 posted on 05/16/2019 12:37:53 PM PDT by arthurus (fg)
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To: ealgeone

That’ll just be the opening salvo. The intellectual and rhetorical pretzels they will make will put the midway soft pretzel vendors to shame.


29 posted on 05/16/2019 1:16:54 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: papertyger
The media will spin that in spite of the teachers being armed there was still an attack.

Remember, with liberalism facts are irrelevant. It's all about the narrative.

Wonder why we're not hearing more about the most recent school attack?

The perps didn't fit the narrative. They were obama loving, Trump hating white kids...one was transgender.

30 posted on 05/16/2019 1:25:52 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: arthurus

Fewer attacks and less bloodshed. Attacker has skin in the game.


31 posted on 05/16/2019 1:54:16 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ("The media is the enemy of the American people." Democrat Pat Caddell)
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To: arthurus

Fewer attacks and less bloodshed. Attacker has skin in the game.


32 posted on 05/16/2019 1:54:16 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ("The media is the enemy of the American people." Democrat Pat Caddell)
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To: arthurus
I am pretty sure that in my part of Florida some teachers have been carrying guns in school for a long time, the thought being that if they get fired and/or go to jail for having a gun after they have shot an armed classroom invader, they are at least alive.

Better to be judged by 12 (or fired) than carried by six...

33 posted on 05/16/2019 2:32:45 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: arthurus

Lesser would mean inferior.

True, less is used for uncountable quantities, and fewer for countable quantities. Fewer dollars, but less money. Since victims are countable, they could be fewer but not (except in an informal sense, which everyone understands) less.


34 posted on 05/16/2019 6:56:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (May Jesus Christ be praised.)
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To: ealgeone
The media will spin that in spite of the teachers being armed there was still an attack.

So precisely what are you recommending as a remedy as you seem thoroughly intent on convincing us any action we take would be thwarted by shadowy ner-do-wells?

35 posted on 05/16/2019 7:11:50 PM PDT by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: papertyger
No. Again, I'm all for armed teachers in the schools.

My point is no matter what we do the Left wind media is going to spin it negatively.

We need to be prepared for that.

36 posted on 05/17/2019 6:28:00 AM PDT by ealgeone
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