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Maybe It's Time To Cut The Federal Government In Half
Forbes ^ | May 9, 2019 | Nathan Lewis

Posted on 05/11/2019 7:44:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Cut The Federal Government In Half”

Half of America would starve.


41 posted on 05/11/2019 9:41:11 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Heaven has a wall and gates. Hell has open borders.)
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To: Paladin2
Actually, I present as a doctor of the comic book mad scientist variety...


42 posted on 05/11/2019 9:50:55 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Excellent idea and long overdue, but the dems would scream bloody murder.


43 posted on 05/11/2019 9:52:21 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: faithhopecharity

It seem too often Forbes columns lean a LITTLE bit left.

Not this one!

Bravo.

Though people that paid into it for decades already, even though they paid into THIN AIR, it’s not their fault and they should get at least what they put in accrued at all of the years’ average interest rates on savings or CDs.

Or maybe that makes no sense at all :)

Wouldn’t be the first time for me!


44 posted on 05/11/2019 10:13:23 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Maybe?


45 posted on 05/11/2019 10:24:04 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Well, I think universal basic income is coming soon. Well more like in 20 years or so. Our economy will have developed to a point that much of our labor force will be surplus.


46 posted on 05/11/2019 10:37:08 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

start with the FBI


47 posted on 05/11/2019 10:40:34 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Not nearly enough...


48 posted on 05/11/2019 10:47:27 PM PDT by northislander
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You could fire half of the government employees and it would make no difference in how things are working. In fact, in many cases the government would run better.


49 posted on 05/11/2019 11:08:45 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
On a site with a boldly originalist name such as Free Republic there should be little debate whether America's reform back to gloriously brilliant original design would be a good thing or not. Good, of course. That is what the author desires.

The only real debate for Freepers is how, exactly, to get back to Freedom from our currently adrift foundation of sand. Or, for some Freepers apparently, whether to even try.

The hook of left-leaning isms is barbed. Get people to bite on sweet-sounding poison like SS, then even when later recognizing the mistake the prey is unlikely to free itself.

SS for example. The fact that millions of people are currently hooked on a program is NOT evidence of its 'goodness'. To Freedom it is the measure of rot. Even so, it is silly and wrong to think we could or should just one day declare the obvious bankruptcy of the scheme and simply stop all payments cold turkey. Folks here are not wrong to point out we'd lose that debate... and the next three elections.

But it is not OK to give up. There are several other ways. Nobody seems to remember/admit now, but Paul Ryan was once a right wing/TEA party hero for galloping into town originally focused on turning entitlements back to the states and/or privatizing SS. Obviously, he failed, then turned constitutionally sour in general before tunneling back out of town. Anyway, with a better prez than Obama Ryan might have gotten farther. Great wars are rarely won in the first battle.

It would help if some folk would recognize the reality of SS today... the only sense in which SS 'owes' you money is in the sense that a car thief owes you a car.

Admit it. It's gone! You are NOT some concerned holder of any sort of real account. You are the victim of theft. Acknowledging this truth will not diminish your loss. And, yes, I believe most voters would fund a painful cleanup / weaning scheme for the victims of this most unnatural of disasters.

But our not-so-greatest generation and the next have to be honest. We f'd up. We can't keep paying the victims of theft (and increasingly non-paying beneficiaries) by stealing ever deeper from their kids.

The WWII generation was one of our bravest to be sure. But greatest generation will be the one which starts us on the path back to Freedom.

We always seem to lose and be discouraged with fed-level efforts to reform fed-level evils. I think because success would violate the 2nd Law of ThermoPolitics - power that flows always goes up and to the center. That is why the Founders gave us multi-dimensional divisions of power - to stop that flow. We say these men were uncommonly wise. But really what separates the Founders from today's flounders is that they were, to us, unrecognizably honest and determined regarding the value of common sense and natural truths.

It's probably going to take a ground-up approach to regain states' rights. The founding states were not carbon copies, they did not all reflexively agree. So the wisely common sense thing to do is agree to disagree - or at least agree to not butt in on each other's state and lower affairs. And agree the fed should stick only to specifically listed/pre-agreed activity.

We are not really more divided today than in the past. It's just that gov't policy, as a whole, is increasingly centralized - funneling various long-held and heart-felt positions of millions of people regarding more and more issues into a singularity of authority. Exactly opposite of the original intentionally up-side down, individual rights design of America.

Calls for parties in DC to reach across the aisle and to 'get things done', etc cause Lady Liberty to barf like a freshman. It is unnatural, immoral and blatantly anti-American to think we should all agree nationally on any internal or social issues. The best way to make the largest number of people the most satisfied with the decisions of government is to leave those decisions to the lowest level possible - NOT to the highest level where you personally have no input. The foundational secret of American Freedom's success is/was adherence to this principle:

Don't compromise. DE-CENTRALIZE.

50 posted on 05/11/2019 11:16:18 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Maybe??? Lol it’s beyond time!!


51 posted on 05/11/2019 11:32:28 PM PDT by SWAMP-C1PHER (HOMO, OECONOMIA, ET CIVITAS.)
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To: NTHockey

Friend, you said EXACTLY what I was thinking. CWII will happen unless emergency surgery is performed stat.


52 posted on 05/11/2019 11:56:08 PM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: BuddhaBrown

I agree.

Most FReepers don’t know what freedom is and why it is important to decentralize . Seriously, the left is pushing for cwII and the genocide of white males. We need drastic change and fast.


53 posted on 05/12/2019 12:01:00 AM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Absolutely. As I have said here many times, no intellectually honest conservative can deny that Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and the like are unconstitutional and immoral.

We must end all of them. And by that I don’t mean we should phase them out. On Medicare and Social Security, we need to stop collecting the taxes that support them and stop sending the checks. And Medicaid should just go away. Can’t pay the doc? Then don’t see the doc. Very simple.

It’s also ridiculous that people who “work” in civilian federal jobs (which are themselves a form of welfare) should also “retire” with a pension.

The GOPe does not want to do what’s right be a they fear losing to the DemonRATS. But I think candidates who speak the truth will win. God will change the hearts of the voters if candidates pledge to slash government and also proclaim The Word loudly and without hesitation or apology.


54 posted on 05/12/2019 12:11:58 AM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"Maybe It's Time To Cut The Federal Government In Half"

Dumb title! Only an idiot with their head up their rectal passage could write that!

Maybe It's Long Past Time To Cut The Federal Government In Half by 80%...

55 posted on 05/12/2019 1:51:32 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: CincyRichieRich

We need to cut everyone who works at the DOJ and FBI in half.


56 posted on 05/12/2019 3:27:39 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Even if Attila the Hun ruled Washington, he wouldn’t be able to eliminated Medicare. People paid premiums for that all their working lives and so they would rain down Hell on Washington until Attila relented and kept the program.

Perhaps move to a privatized health care retirement solution paid for in advance over a person’s working career?


57 posted on 05/12/2019 3:34:34 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: rexthecat
My guess is that more than half of the folks on FR are getting Social Security and Medicare. And we are not going to agree to losing our benefits

I am less than 10 years from retirement and would gladly renounce all my SS today in exchange for eliminating all SS witholding. I would also agree to have my own taxes raised a little to pay for current recipients. By "a little" I mean I would get a extra IRA deduction to catch up my retirement savings since I am so close to retirement.

58 posted on 05/12/2019 3:39:45 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: gasport
Give people a choice (so beloved by the Progs) to opt out of SS & Mcare. Return the money extorted after deducting an insurance “corkage”.

I would gladly opt out (less than 10 years from retirement). But the money I put in is gone, and can't be returned in any way shape or form. The only thing I would ask, as my taxes go up to pay for existing retirees, is that I can offset part of the tax increase with an enhanced IRA based on age.

59 posted on 05/12/2019 3:42:58 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: BuddhaBrown
Admit it. It's gone! You are NOT some concerned holder of any sort of real account. You are the victim of theft.

Yep. I am always amused by people who want "their money" back.

60 posted on 05/12/2019 3:45:12 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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