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Untold Stories: The American Workers Replaced by the H-1B Visa Program
Center for Immigration Studies ^ | 04 May 2019 | Matthew Sussis

Posted on 05/06/2019 2:57:50 PM PDT by zeestephen

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To: Innovative

>The American workers need to learn useful skills to compete.

No sentence is truer. I work in tech, and it is a matter of working hard and keeping the skill sets up to date. Complacency is one of the largest enemies to our workforce.


21 posted on 05/06/2019 4:00:26 PM PDT by ConsCA
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To: zeestephen
(4) When Trump came into office, the number of OPT workers was below 250,000. Trump has increased OPT workers to more than 300,000.

Most here won't recall but The President during the campaign lamented what a shame it was for all these brilliant students to have to go home after graduation, we need to figure a way to keep them here. Guess he figured out how.

22 posted on 05/06/2019 4:03:25 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: \/\/ayne

And it shows.


23 posted on 05/06/2019 4:07:43 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Innovative

Hard to compete when corporations skip paying taxes they would have to pay to hire US citizens.
Not a skill in the world can replace th he trillions in taxes saved by corporate crronyism.


24 posted on 05/06/2019 4:11:43 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Do you know anyone who isnÂ’t a socialist after 65? Freedom exchanged for cash and control.)
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To: zeestephen

H1-B is a fraud - I work in consulting, some are smart but most can’t speak business English.


25 posted on 05/06/2019 4:12:22 PM PDT by sheehan (DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS.)
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To: Innovative
The American workers need to learn useful skills to compete.

What a colossally stupid thing to say. The only skill the people in this article lack is the willingness to work for a fraction of their current salary.

26 posted on 05/06/2019 4:14:43 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: spintreebob

I thought reply 4 was stupid. Then I read yours.


27 posted on 05/06/2019 4:15:25 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: momincombatboots

“Hard to compete when corporations skip paying taxes they would have to pay to hire US citizens.”

That certainly is not fair and that loophole should be closed.


28 posted on 05/06/2019 4:18:10 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: zeestephen; LeoWindhorse

To work in China, you need to apply for a Z-visa. This visa is a rigorous selection process that [1] determines whether or not you have the skills that would benefit China, and [2] Whether or not the companies that hire you will not displace Chinese citizens.

Essentially, there are a number of things that they do, and all are interesting. Some key points of note and offered for your consideration...

[1] Minimum wages for a foreigner to work in China must be 4x that of a local Chinese worker in the same field.

[2] Criminal background check, and a point system that determines a person’s value.

[3] Constant monitoring and registration requirements similar to that of which America has for sex offenders.

To work in China, you must be an “expert”. This is a a process that determines your value compared to local Chinese. The role of the Chinese government is to ensure the social stability of the nation, and that the Chinese people and their interests are always put first.


Why can’t the United States do the same?


29 posted on 05/06/2019 4:53:07 PM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: Yossarian

I feel ya, Brother.

Even better when you get interviewed by someone, who is up front and downright *perky* when they tell you that they expect you to give them NOTHING less than to match the foreign workers on both hours-worked, and unquestioned availability on both time and downward flexibility on pay.

As one said (and which I eventually used in a poem):
“Ya gotta be willing to hustle harder and sacrifice more, and above all, see these challenges as exciting!”


30 posted on 05/06/2019 5:08:55 PM PDT by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: Kriggerel
“Ya gotta be willing to hustle harder and sacrifice more, and above all, see these challenges as exciting!”

No, you have to be willing to organize and fight as hard as possible to stop these horrible abuses.

F*** working yourself to poor health just so you can afford rent and never buy a house.

31 posted on 05/06/2019 5:18:28 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: zeestephen

Everybody always focuses on Tech. It goes much deeper than Tech. I can tell you the banking industry is just chocked full of cheap H1b visa holders who undercut Americans on wages and who take the place of what should be Americans in those roles.


32 posted on 05/06/2019 5:27:44 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: vannrox

The process to get a visa to work in Switzerland was similar in effect to the process you describe for China. I not only had to provide evidence of my advanced education and clearance letters from the local police for me and all family members, but my employer had to show that the job I was being hired for could not be performed by a Swiss citizen.

I’m sure many countries have similar high standards for jobs requiring education and skills so that they can protect their own citizens. Supposedly the H1B visas are supposed to work in a similar fashion, but over the past 20 years the abuses are rampant. It is not a question of importing people to fill a job for which there is not enough local talent - it has become a total cost cutting system displacing highly educated Americans with low wage foreigners.


33 posted on 05/06/2019 5:53:34 PM PDT by LibertyOh
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Thanks zeestephen.

34 posted on 05/06/2019 6:20:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Yossarian

This is a knife that can cut both ways. I’m starting an offshore company in Latin America with the goal of taking business from India. When he dust settles I’ll be in a nice tropical setting much of the year.


35 posted on 05/06/2019 6:36:45 PM PDT by The Duke (President Trump = America's Last, Best Chance)
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To: ConsCA

These days, with skill set demands changing daily, keeping up is the equivalent of a dog chasing it’s tail.


36 posted on 05/06/2019 7:13:38 PM PDT by bobcat62
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To: zeestephen

There is a very easy solution to the H-1B visa problem.

I would let businesses have as many H-1B visas as they want. At a cost of 1 million dollars per visa. Renewable yearly.

How many low wage foreigners will they hire then? For that matter, how many high wage foreigners will they hire?


37 posted on 05/06/2019 7:25:02 PM PDT by jjr153 (Never Forget 9/11)
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To: jjr153

The cost of a H-1B is neither tax deductible nor refundable.


38 posted on 05/06/2019 7:30:03 PM PDT by jjr153 (Never Forget 9/11)
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To: zeestephen

I saw several buildings in Redmond go from 60% American to 60% Indian in 4 years. Thousands and thousands.


39 posted on 05/06/2019 8:23:41 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Trump 2020 - Re-Elect the M*****F***er!)
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To: imardmd1

I point blank tell college kids to avoid any programming that can be offshored to a guy in a grass hut.


40 posted on 05/06/2019 8:26:29 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Trump 2020 - Re-Elect the M*****F***er!)
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