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To: ProtectOurFreedom
This article is one of the more enlightened treatments of the subject that I've read.

https://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/aviation/how-the-boeing-737-max-disaster-looks-to-a-software-developer

9 posted on 05/03/2019 9:03:59 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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“I’ll say it again: In the 737 Max, the engine nacelles themselves can, at high angles of attack, work as a wing and produce lift. And the lift they produce is well ahead of the wing’s center of lift, meaning the nacelles will cause the 737 Max at a high angle of attack to go to a higher angle of attack. This is aerodynamic malpractice of the worst kind.”


24 posted on 05/03/2019 9:34:22 AM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: billorites

I read that article last month...it is a good one.


25 posted on 05/03/2019 9:35:55 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: billorites

From the comments...

...Very good analysis, but fatally incomplete. One really essential reason those planes crashed was that each time the MCAS triggered, it acted like it was the first time. If it added 1 degree of trim last time, it adds a second this time, a third next time, up to the five degrees that runs the trim all the way to the stops. A second reason is that, under the design still on file at the FAA, it could only add a maximum of 0.8 degrees (each time). This was raised to 2.4 degrees after testing, so only two hits could, in principle, put you almost to the stops. A third was that the only way to override the MCAS was to turn off power to the motor that worked the trim. But above 400 knots, the strength needed to dial back the trim with the hand crank was more than actual live pilots have, especially if it is taking all their strength to pull back on the yoke. A fourth was that, with two flight control computers, the pilot could (partly) turn off a misbehaving one, but there is no way to turn on the other one. You have to land first, to switch over, even though the other is doing all the work to be ready to fly the plane. A fifth was that it ignored that pilots were desperately pulling back on the yoke, which could have been a clue that it was doing the wrong thing. A sixth was that, besides comparing redundant sensors, it could have compared what the other flight computer thought it should be doing.


29 posted on 05/03/2019 9:45:22 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: billorites

Thanks for that article reference. It’s the only one to coherently explain the function of MCAS on the 737 MAX. Looks ultimately like a software hack to overcome an inherent bad design; engine nacelles simply too large to properly fit the airframe without a redesign.

“Finally, there’s the need to keep the very existence of the MCAS system on the hush-hush lest someone say, “Hey, this isn’t your father’s 737,” and bank accounts start to suffer.”


30 posted on 05/03/2019 9:45:54 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: billorites
“Cheap way to prevent a stall when the pilots punch it,” or CWTPASWTPPI, system."

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“Cheap way to prevent a stall when the inexperienced pilots punch it,” or CWTPASWTIPPI, system."

Fixed it.

76 posted on 05/03/2019 11:33:51 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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