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To: DiogenesLamp

“Lieutenant Porter was trying to start a ware with direct attacks on the Confederates.”

Who fired the first shots?

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lieutenant Porter did not. Neither did Lincoln. No sane person doubts it was the South who first attacked. Perhaps no other fact of the war is as well established or as undebatable as that!

This is like debating a 3 year old. But Lost Causers aren’t big on history. Never have been. They don’t like to admit the South fought for slavery, either.


732 posted on 05/10/2019 6:42:53 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Mr Rogers; DiogenesLamp
Who fired the first shots?

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lieutenant Porter did not. Neither did Lincoln. No sane person doubts it was the South who first attacked. Perhaps no other fact of the war is as well established or as undebatable as that!

This is like debating a 3 year old. But Lost Causers aren’t big on history. Never have been. They don’t like to admit the South fought for slavery, either.

Since you apparently consider yourself "big on history," I recommend the following book to you, "Reassessing the Presidency" published in 2001 by the Ludwig von Mises Institute. It is a collection of essays about former presidents and their policies and actions. Among the essays is one by John V. Denson entitled, "Abraham Lincoln and the First Shot: A Study of Deceit and Deception."

736 posted on 05/10/2019 9:51:05 AM PDT by rustbucket
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To: Mr Rogers
Who fired the first shots?

Lieutenant Porter! THAT is who fired the first shots! You are hiding from this fact. You keep trying to ignore evidence that this was a deliberate plan to create a war by Abraham Lincoln.

Again, look up Porter's memoir. He will inform you that *HE* fired shots first, and in compliance with secret orders from Lincoln.

Lieutenant Porter did not.

Have you read his memoir? He most certainly did fire the first shots.

No sane person doubts it was the South who first attacked.

Stop. Just stop. People have been brainwashed with this sh*t since the war. Of course people thinks the South attacked first. That is exactly how the history is written and repeated, and I had always believed it myself too until I finally read the real history of what happened.

Stop listening to your brainwashing, and start looking at the real facts surrounding the events in question.

This is like debating a 3 year old.

Yes it is, but I have hopes for you if you would just stop regurgitating the crap you've been taught, and start looking at the real evidence of what happened.

They don’t like to admit the South fought for slavery, either.

And here we go again! All you can do is regurgitate the same tired lines we always hear. You ignore the fact that the UNION was a slave Union, and you try to pretend that Lincoln didn't offer complete and total slavery to the South in an effort to keep them under Washington DC's control.

You just ignore facts that contradict your mantra, and you just keep chanting your mantra.

"The South attacked first!" The South only fought to keep slavery!"

Both are lies, but you very much want to believe them. You need to grow up and start facing ugly truths that you do not like.

748 posted on 05/10/2019 9:20:15 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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