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To: Team Cuda
So, why did the Southern states secede? If not about slavery, it must have been about something else, unless we assume that everyone woke up one morning and said, “I’m bored, let’s secede!” Specifically, why did Mississippi chose to secede - please provide support from their Articles of Secession. Please provide the same for South Carolina, Texas, and Georgia. I am sure that I am misreading those documents and look forward to your correcting my reading.. Why did they secede? Mostly money - the same thing people almost always fight over. They knew they would be better off economically on their own. That's the same reason the North wanted them to remain in so badly. Read Rhett's address or Georgia's listing of its economic grievances. Texas had complaints about border security in addition to complaints about being financially bled dry by the Northern states.
428 posted on 05/04/2019 5:05:24 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

I had never read Rhett’s address before. Thank you for recommending it. BTW, the full title is “The Address of the people of South Carolina, assembled in Convention, to the people of the Slaveholding States of the United States”. Not a great start for a document you claim proves that Secession wasn’t due to slavery.

It does address the taxation issue, after a couple of paragraphs of intro and background. However, by the time you get to paragraph 9, it rapidly becomes about the issue of slavery. From then on, for the rest of the document (roughly half of the total), the talk is mainly of slavery, with nary a mention of taxes and tariffs.

So, I hardly think that this document proves that secession was primarily about money, I think it rather proves that it was mainly about slavery.

Interestingly enough, this document was addressed to the other slaveholding (his word, not mine) states. When you look at the document South Carolina addressed to the North, and the rest of the world, they only mentioned slavery and not tariffs or taxes. Kind of tells you what they wanted the world to think their primary cause of secession was, doesn’t it?

In fact, when you read all of the Articles of Secession from the states, or those who actually mentioned a cause, 100% of them mentioned slavery.

So, I stand by my contention that the primary cause of secession was slavery.


518 posted on 05/05/2019 3:43:55 PM PDT by Team Cuda
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To: FLT-bird

We are in the middle of a culture war in the US. The socialists have pitted each culture against the other. It’s all they talk about , think about, report on. It fills their heads 24 hours a day. They tear down monuments , they vandalize them, they even desecrate sacred grave sites. They seek Chaos. Up to this point the Confederate things have been the target, but that’s changing. They are coming after our founding fathers now. They use PC and victimhood to get the different traditional American cultures fighting one another. America is a land of many cultures that combine for an American culture. The American wAy is for each to respect the other, and when the crap hits the fan we fight together. They want to prevent that by making us hate each other. The South as in 1861 just asks to be left alone. Respect our culture and our forefathers. Leave our symbols and monuments alone. That’s all we ask. They know that. They know we stand in their way to a Godless, Secular, Socialist Government for the elite. But they are mistaken if they think we will not fight for what we think they can not take from us. Our Rights are given by God not government. For our Individual liberty we will and always fight !


531 posted on 05/06/2019 6:52:47 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness”)
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