So we’re back to the whole “the Confederates were no different than the 13 states who declared independence from the British” argument. The difference is that the colonists who rebelled against the British did so because they wanted freedom from a distant, unrepresentative government, and the right to rule themselves. I don’t believe that slavery was even a minor issue in the rebellion. It’s unfortunate that, in 1776, society as a whole had no issues with slavery, but that’s where we were.
Fast forward some 80+ years, and slavery is considered abhorrent by society in general (I know I’m going to get in trouble with that statement, but consider that Great Britain outlawed slavery in 1833, and 70+% of all Americans lived in a state where slavery was illegal). When you look at the reasons the states seceded, they said it was due to slavery. If you don’t believe it, I suggest you read the Articles of Secession from the individual states (I love Mississippi’s).
So, the original colonies fighting for self-government. The Confederate States fighting for the right to own people. Yep. I see no difference (do I really have to add the sarc label?)
Yes, exactly what the Confederate states wanted too.
I don’t believe that slavery was even a minor issue in the rebellion.
No, all the states agreed at the time that it was just business as usual. Britain didn't make a big deal over it either, other than offering freedom to slaves who would help them fight the rebels.
When you look at the reasons the states seceded, they said it was due to slavery.
So where in the Declaration of Independence does it specify this cannot be a reason for wanting independence? Actually, where does it specify *ANY* conditions for the right to independence? I must have missed that.
Also, it was only 3 or 4 states that mention slavery as a reason, but people trying to defend the invasion of the south always trot out those few states in an effort to justify what was done to all 11.
(I love Mississippi’s)
How do you feel about Virginia's secession statement? Or that of North Carolina?
So, the original colonies fighting for self-government.
So were the Confederate states.
The Confederate States fighting for the right to own people.
Okay, wait a minute. I must have misunderstood this whole thing. You mean the confederates were fighting for the right to own people? That's terrible! It's quite right that the United States didn't allow such a thing.
Why did they ever think they could initiate slavery in a Union of free states? It boggles the mind how they ever expected to get away with that. No wonder they wanted to leave, because everyone knows slavery was completely illegal in the United States of America.
Do you see what a f***ing hypocrite you are on this particular point? Do you see?
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They already *HAD* the f***ing right to own people in the United States of America!
You can't take credit for doing something you wouldn't have done if they had remained in the Union. You also can't cast aspersion on them for doing exactly the same thing they would have done had they remained in the Union.
Slavery in the CSA is exactly the same thing as slavery in the USA.