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To: God luvs America

Although Ukraine and other democracies (many ex-socialist) worldwide may have problems with Trump and Russia, they’re probably even more uneasy with the prospect of left-wing socialists gaining power in the USA. Especially those like Bernie who love Cuba and the old Soviet Union.


37 posted on 05/02/2019 9:16:46 PM PDT by Rainier1789 (My Constitution has a 2nd and 10th Amendment)
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According to Sundance, and I think he's on the mark, the Dirty Dossier and Crossfire Hurricane WAS the insurance policy. And the messaging between the lovers confirms that as the back-up plan if you think about it.

Obongo's mutts were using NSA intercepts for years and years to keep track of the Republicans and any potential political threats.........up until April 2016 when the FISA judge and the Admiral got wise to their games and shut it down for the contractors anyway. Hence, they needed another means via the FISA warrants against Carter Page which allowed them to carry on spying on Trump and the campaign via the two hops rule.

Was there more going on via Brennan and the FIBs here and there, including the Brits, Aussies, Ukraine etc? Of course, but the loss of their free access to the NSA unmasking in April 2016 inspired them to find a different means to skin the same cat.

43 posted on 05/02/2019 10:32:06 PM PDT by Sa-teef
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To: Rainier1789

Although Ukraine and other democracies (many ex-socialist) worldwide may have problems with Trump and Russia, they’re probably even more uneasy with the prospect of left-wing socialists gaining power in the USA. Especially those like Bernie who love Cuba and the old Soviet Union.


They really don’t care about that. They just want Uncle Sam’s cash/loan guarantees/visa waivers/whatever.


45 posted on 05/02/2019 10:39:33 PM PDT by lodi90
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I think in this story Ukraine has problem with just Manafort. They want their stolen money back, but since this has gotten so much bigger they can’t sue now without it becoming political.


71 posted on 05/05/2019 2:28:13 AM PDT by Krosan
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