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Navy recruit is second woman to die at Illinois boot camp in 2 months
CBS News ^ | April 27, 2019

Posted on 04/28/2019 4:20:34 PM PDT by SMGFan

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To: chronicles

I went through USMC OCS at Quantico in 1982. We had several heat casualties. Two died from heat stroke.

At the time, we just accepted it and moved on.


61 posted on 04/28/2019 9:07:34 PM PDT by Texas resident (Democrats=Enemy of People of The United States of America)
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To: dfwgator

Chuck Hughes died after catching a pass and being absolutely leveled by Dick Butkus in the most vicious hit I have ever seen. He died on the next play I think.


62 posted on 04/28/2019 9:22:26 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: SMGFan

My grand daughter went through Navy boot camp recently and she said it wasn’t that bad but she was fit when she went. She said most of them were in terrible shape and even the ones that are slender and look healthy are really out of shape to do anything.

Of course I have no idea what happened to those in the article but many young people today are not as active as we all were when we grew up.


63 posted on 04/28/2019 9:28:27 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: ETCS

The only time I had electrodes on me was on the treadmill. Who knows.


64 posted on 04/28/2019 9:33:30 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: arrogantsob

The picture was of Butkus desperately trying to signal help for Hughes, because he saw that he had turned blue.

While Butkus’ hit may have been the thing the triggered Hughes’ death, the autopsy revealed essentially that he had the heart of an 80-year old. Apparently he had experienced some chest pains a few weeks beforehand, but the team doctors dismissed it. I believe she wound up suing the Lions’ organization.


65 posted on 04/28/2019 9:54:45 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SMGFan
In my Battalion (Fort Dix late 1972) we had a trainee die on a march.
66 posted on 04/28/2019 10:29:28 PM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
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To: SMGFan

Maybe girls shouldn’t be allowed in the general enlistment...


67 posted on 04/28/2019 10:39:09 PM PDT by northislander
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To: MSF BU

“... Resume the draft and raise the standards...”
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When the draft IS resumed don’t be surprised if women are included. A judge ruled the ‘male only’ Draft Registration to be Unconstitutional.

The chickens are coming home to roost, whether the young women in this country are aware of it...sooner or later, it *will* happen.....


68 posted on 04/29/2019 12:32:45 AM PDT by Notthereyet (NotThereYet)
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To: SamAdams76

Heh, heh. I remember guys like you guarding our stuff; we always had a lot of fun with them. I’d tell you some of it, but that would be compromising ...

If the base had crypto gear and was purported to be a submarine base, it was likely a sub transmission of receiving station - no subs on that base, just comm gear.

The Russians were always sneaking up on those sorts of bases, except in one base we were on fair terms with them supplying them with ice cream and coke when their Hind helicopters stopped over us on the exchange inspection sorties. That and the 3 Russian Armies and 30,000 tanks just a few km away ...


69 posted on 04/29/2019 3:34:51 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Notthereyet

Resuming the draft and raising the standards from what they are presently would result in fewer recruits, not more. That says nothing about the educational needs of the modern military which is very technical.

The resumed draft would kill the US military as presently configured.


70 posted on 04/29/2019 3:42:18 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Drew68

Could be, but we really don’t know enough at this point IMO.


71 posted on 04/29/2019 3:46:24 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: EEGator

Most youthful heart attacks are due to an undetected flaw that has the symptom of being fatal at first appearance.


72 posted on 04/29/2019 4:19:43 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: PIF
The resumed draft would kill the US military as presently configured.

This Active Duty service member agrees wholeheartedly. Today's military has no interest in conscripts, no need for them, and no system in place to train them. WE do not want to serve alongside disgruntled malcontents that don't want to be here.

73 posted on 04/29/2019 5:56:25 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: SMGFan

It is sad, but thousands and thousand of people go through boot camp without dying. This is getting blown way out of proportion. The girl is from my hometown. This is what she may have died of:

Unfortunately, because many people with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy don’t realize they have it, there are instances where the first sign of a problem is sudden cardiac death. These cases can happen in seemingly healthy young people, including high school athletes and other young, active adults. News of these types of deaths generates understandable attention because they’re so unexpected, but parents should be aware these deaths are quite rare.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hypertrophic-cardiomyopathy/symptoms-causes/syc-20350198


74 posted on 04/29/2019 5:57:46 AM PDT by suthener
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To: suthener

Are medical exams required , is medical history needed to be more complete?
Of course we want to prevent death. Could most deaths have been prevented with stress test etc?


75 posted on 04/29/2019 6:05:35 AM PDT by SMGFan ("God love ya! What am I talking about")
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To: SMGFan

“Are medical exams required , is medical history needed to be more complete?
Of course we want to prevent death. Could most deaths have been prevented with stress test etc?”

Yes, medical exams are required. Assuming cardiomyopathy was her cause of death, a medical history would be irrelevant because frequently there are no symptoms. Deaths like these are extremely rare (that’s why they’re major news) and I doubt there is much you could do about them. Sometimes people die, even young, seemingly healthy people.


76 posted on 04/29/2019 6:33:47 AM PDT by suthener
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To: SMGFan

Nobody counsels these recruits to show up in shape. Could well be the first heavy physical exertion in a lifetime, what with TV, video games, faces buried in phones...


77 posted on 04/29/2019 8:12:47 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Grampa Dave

I passed out for the first time in my life while running on the Grinder there in late August- early September of 1961.


78 posted on 04/29/2019 8:17:31 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed

“I passed out for the first time in my life while running on the Grinder there in late August- early September of 1961.”

You beat me there by a few months. I was there in early December, 1961. It was very cold.

We had a fatal case of Spinal Meningitis in the barracks below. Fortunately no cases in our barracks.

Our DI got relieved for brutality to recruits. He broke the foot of a boot camper with the stock of a M1.

Then, I ended up marching the guys to from and fro. I had been on an ROTC drill team. I was 22 and the other guys were from 18 to my age.


79 posted on 04/29/2019 9:12:47 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( One of President TrumpÂ’s Clinging, Deploreable, Low IQ Dreg supporters helping to MAGA!)
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To: PIF
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80 posted on 04/29/2019 9:16:10 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( One of President TrumpÂ’s Clinging, Deploreable, Low IQ Dreg supporters helping to MAGA!)
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