Posted on 04/26/2019 3:57:00 PM PDT by Olog-hai
New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy on Friday ordered that the Mississippi flag, which carries a Confederate emblem, be replaced by the American flag at a state park that overlooks the Statue of Liberty.
Murphy ordered the removal of Mississippi’s flag from a display of each state’s flag at Liberty State Park, a preserve of more than 1,200 acres in Jersey City that overlooks Ellis Island and Lady Liberty.
Murphy is a first-term Democrat and a self-styled progressive who regularly cited the Emma Lazarus poem at the statue’s base that invites immigrants to America.
New Jersey, he said, is rooted in diversity, and the flag doesn’t fit.
“The Confederate symbol displayed on the Mississippi state flag is reprehensible and does not reflect our values of inclusivity and equality,” he said in a statement. […]
Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant, a Republican, said in a statement Friday: “I’m disappointed in Gov. Murphy’s actions. As I have repeatedly said, the voters of Mississippi should decide what the state flag is or is not.” …
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To every Union Republic is reserved the right freely to secede from the USSR.So-called “Brexit” shows how much a leftist entity means it when they say one can secede from its union. The US Constitution does not outline a leftist form of union in any way, shape or form.
— 1936 USSR constitution, Article 17
Each Union Republic shall retain the right freely to secede from the USSR.
— 1977 USSR constitution, Article 71
— Treaty of Lisbon (de facto European Union constitution), Article 50
- Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.
- A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3)[12] of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council [of the European Union], acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament.
- The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.
- For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it.
A qualified majority shall be defined in accordance with Article 238(3)(b) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.
- If a State which has withdrawn from the Union asks to rejoin, its request shall be subject to the procedure referred to in Article 49.
Pardon me for paraphrasing the late Justice Scalia of the SCOTUS, as I don’t have the text at hand (I’m not anywhere near my library.).
Justice Scalia said that when the AWI was won that our Founders weren’t at all sure what sort of new nation that the United Colonies (We were not yet the USA.) would be and that NONE of the 13 new States would have entered into any compact of the States freely that they couldn’t just as freely depart “at their own motion”. At that time, NOBODY actually knew whether the new USA would be a workable system of government or it would prove to be a miserable failure. = That is ONE of the options for dealing with a tyrannical central government & an option that is short of a civil war or another revolution.
For example, if this year the citizens of California voted to leave the USA, they are FREE to do so & the only options for the other 49 States is allow CA’s secession to occur peacefully OR to chose to go to war to stop the former US State of California’s secession.
(In 2019, the thought of California, given their current state of LEFTIST lunacy, leaving the USA forever makes me smile.)
Yours, TMN78247
I, too, wish that there was a GREAT deal more detail in BLACKS in BLUE & GRAY about the South’s ALL-Black combat units & about free Black Confederates in general but the simple truth is that most of the official CSA personnel records of their service were destroyed by fire in 1865, when Richmond burned.
Btw, the many Black volunteers for CSA service “gives the lie to” the radical Unionists & Revisionist’s patent & constantly repeated LIES about the WBTS being solely or even mainly about slavery and/or freeing the slaves.
(Only a fool would believe that Blacks would fight to keep themselves & other Black people in bondage, so the obvious conclusion is that TWBTS was NOT ever about “preservation of the peculiar institution” or even about “freeing the slaves” at that time OR at any future date.)
That said, the coming of The Industrial Revolution to agriculture would have soon ended slavery in the USA, as nobody could afford to buy/clothe/feed/house slaves if there
was NO profit motive.
Note: VERY FEW people in the North or South ever thought that slavery was a moral issue until TWBTS was over & then only because the Radicals, who had prosecuted the long/bloody war, believed that they had to do something to punish the South for secession. - Of course, hardly anyone thought to ask the slaves’ opinion of being in bondage. That question wouldn’t have occurred to hardly anyone of the “White race” (whatever “white” means in the 19th/21st Century) at that time.
Yours, TMN78247
Our dear friend and fellow Compatriot
4ConservativeJustices (4CJ),time after time after time brought up the Constitutionality of secession from James Madison’s attempts to stifle it at the Constitutional Convention only too be rebuffed to the Penhallow case of 1795 where 3 of the 4 justice held the view that the states could unilaterally secede if they wish too as well as all the up to the 1860’s when the south did leave.
We’re not a kritocracy; we’re a republic. The opinions of judges resulting in bad precedent was one of the causes of the Civil War.
The desire to leave and/or split a union for the wrong reasons is rebellion, not “secession”.
Nonsense!
Wardaddy add this one to the Neo-Walt Brigade list
You’ve yet too refute a single thing that Rust Bucket or I have posted too you.
Instead your giving us the same Walt Brigade bullshit that has been debunked and refuted time after time after time.
In bourgeois society, therefore, the past controls the present; in communist society, the present controls the past.And the words of the CSA constitution still speak for themselves:
No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed.Today we are overruled by the opinions of judges far too much. And the book of Judges (Shophtim) is the bloodiest book in the Bible, set down for us as examples of what to avoid.
— Article 1, Section 9, Clause 4
You’ve refuted nothing just cicting the same bullshit while adding your own fallacy too it.
Same to you
Like Trump Derangement Syndrome, REVISIONISM (.i.e., attempting to “shout down” persons who present well-known/documented facts & attempts to replace those facts with foolishness/whimsey/ignorance/unsupported opinions & (I might well add) LEFTIST RADICAL beliefs are a sure sign of having “a severe mental defect or disease”.
In the event that a person exhibits any of those symptoms, they would do well to seek treatment from a mental health professional.
(Removing oneself from the company of such mentally diseased persons would also be wise to avoid being further contaminated by their prejudices/bigotry/hatefulness toward others/loony beliefs.)
Yours, TMN78247
FYI all you’ve done is trying to refute it by trying to tie it to directly judicial supremacy when it’s just opposite.
Also you happyly skimmed over Madison’s rebuff at his attempt to stifle secession.
Which you can find here http://www.freerepublic.com/news/1887357/posts?page=318#318
Fwiw, there is nothing wrong with the US Constitution except that it does not specifically forbid hateful leftists, who HATE the Constitution, from attempting to curtail and/or attempt to destroy LIBERTY by “running to activist judges” with the specific intent attempt to subvert the wise beliefs/writings/precepts contained in the Constitution, of our Republic’s Founders.
I would further state that the authors of the Bill of Rghts erred when they did not specifically limit the ability of federal judges to MAKE law, especially when that judicial activism is nothing more than “kow-towing to” the latest leftist prejudices/foolishness and to their own extra-legal/loony opinions.
Yours, TMN78247
It’s interesting watching you two go back and forth, but I have a comment on the subject of the original post.
This is a sign - a very bad one - of the coming dissolution of the Union. Such an act of disrespect by a Governor of one of the fifty states would have been unimaginable just ten years ago,
Speaking for his people, the Governor of NJ has announced that the American State of Mississippi does not belong. Yes, it’s a minor thing in itself, yes, he’s an idiot, and so on.
But for Captain James to be willing to pull the lanyard on the field piece pointed at Fort Sumter, a lot of prep work was needed. Just so, this act of alienation by a state Governor is prep work for what’s coming.
Personally, I fear that you’re correct.
Continued attempts by the FAR LEFT to subvert the FREEDOMS that were enumerated in the US Constitution may well result (at some, hopefully, distant date in the future) in armed conflict between the Patriots and the Leftist lunatics.
(Those FREEDOMS existed long before the Constitution was created. The authors simply LISTED those pre-existing freedoms.)
For those of us who “monitor” the websites that are written/frequented by the leftist HATERS of FREEDOM, the calls to arm themselves & the open “calls for violent actions” against other citizens (which are now commonplace on those websites), who disagree with the Leftist’s agenda, are particularly worrying.
COMMENT: As just one of the many millions of the Patriot majority, our family is NOT armed to “go looking for trouble” but rather we are armed in case “trouble comes looking for us”.
Yours, TMN78247
Undeniably, this is the left’s goal here. Taking the US off the world stage while transforming it from within by any means whatsoever.
Swattie, is that you?!
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