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BIG! – NSA Recommends Dropping Phone Surveillance Program….
CTH ^ | April 24, 2019 | sundance

Posted on 04/25/2019 11:04:57 AM PDT by xzins

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1 posted on 04/25/2019 11:04:57 AM PDT by xzins
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I am in favor of dropping it.

There is only mischief in the ability to collect citizen data whenever and wherever. I will be abused again.

Dealing with enemies? We’ll have to go to a deterrance mindset and strike first when we have legit suspicions.


2 posted on 04/25/2019 11:06:19 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying fcfor their victory.)
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Now that China can receive the information directly, there’s no need to continue American access.


3 posted on 04/25/2019 11:08:21 AM PDT by rhombus10
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They should still collect data or even monitor all phone calls that cross the borders of the US....................


4 posted on 04/25/2019 11:09:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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I’m convinced Hillary’s server was a cute way to release paid for info directly to the Chinese.


5 posted on 04/25/2019 11:09:28 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying fcfor their victory.)
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For what then would we need an NSA for?


6 posted on 04/25/2019 11:09:29 AM PDT by onedoug
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They can access all the phone and text data they want, but can they process it to useable data in a timely manner?


7 posted on 04/25/2019 11:09:59 AM PDT by Savage Rider
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It will drop collecting American data. I assume they will still collect foreign calls entering the US and those entirely overseas.


8 posted on 04/25/2019 11:11:51 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying fcfor their victory.)
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That’s what the Utah facility was for.

But, the real gold mine in it was the query by name and or number of anybody.

If they had a gripe with me, they could enter a query, and they’d have every digit I ever spoke for them to search through. Anyone has a crime someplace under that kind of scrutiny.


9 posted on 04/25/2019 11:13:36 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying fcfor their victory.)
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10 posted on 04/25/2019 11:14:37 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. Hamilton)
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Even if they claim to have ‘stopped it’, I won’t believe them. Once a well financed, faceless bureaucracy learns how to do this, I don’t see them ever stopping in totality.
Such is the world we now live in.


11 posted on 04/25/2019 11:15:12 AM PDT by lee martell
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And likely others. “Oh what a shame it would be if the c:/payforplay/sorosproject30592 folder were hacked! Our IT guy is soooo bad at security!”


12 posted on 04/25/2019 11:15:35 AM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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In other words they have something far more effective and undiscovered in place.

How about we call their bluff and push for a complete shut down and elimination of the NSA. It’s time to bleachbit the NSA from existence.

13 posted on 04/25/2019 11:15:41 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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Chapter One in the “time to move on” strategy being rushed into effect before the SHTF. Adjuncts to this technique are fellow travelers “mistakes were made” and “everybody does it.” Might as well add in “this is so divisive.”

Now the left has Google and Facebook to do the same and more - and they can be depended upon to exclude conservatives.

If this strategy struggles, look for them to propose a 911-type bipartisan commission to “study” the “matter.” Too bad Sandy Burglar isn’t still around to conduct “research” at NARA.


14 posted on 04/25/2019 11:17:29 AM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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They won’t drop it. The story is out there just to make us feel better.


15 posted on 04/25/2019 11:19:12 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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The sale of multi-staged missile tech in the 90s was damaging enough. A China-Google merger should probably terrify.


16 posted on 04/25/2019 11:19:41 AM PDT by rhombus10
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Lol


17 posted on 04/25/2019 11:22:10 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying fcfor their victory.)
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I know someone who had worked on a network connected to this apparatus. The storage is unbelievable immense, and they fall behind more every day, as the information accumulates faster than it can be processed.


18 posted on 04/25/2019 11:22:58 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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The surveillance will never go away.

They will just change the name of the program, assign it to another branch or agency, and carry on....


19 posted on 04/25/2019 11:24:21 AM PDT by cgbg (Democracy dies in darkness when Bezos bans books.)
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In theory, they had the 2 hop rule only from an overseas foreigner to someone and that someone to someone else.

Maybe they go to one hop, but I doubt they’ll stop monitoring foreign calls to the US or all calls within foreign countries that they can.


20 posted on 04/25/2019 11:24:22 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying fcfor their victory.)
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