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The rest of the title is: Or Rejection Of One Man, And It’s Not Jesus Christ
1 posted on 04/22/2019 3:43:15 AM PDT by Kaslin
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A good article on faith based politics.


2 posted on 04/22/2019 4:45:24 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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During the campaign I had numerous discussions were I had to frequently remind people we were voting for President not pastor.

Many Christians did not vote for Trumpin 16 but many of the ones I know that did not, they would walk over glass to vote for him in 2020.

Trump in a landslide in 2020.


3 posted on 04/22/2019 5:11:45 AM PDT by Romans Nine
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Now, the real conflict in America’s churches often boils down to support or rejection of one man, and sadly that man is not Jesus Christ.

The conflict goes back much further than that. This is just the latest chapter.

In this chapter, the split may go deeper, and divide Evangelicals against themselves, rather than against mainstream or liberal denominations, but it may be shallower, more about Trump's behavior and style than about religion or politics.

One could make the counter-argument that everything is about religion and everything is about politics, but in this case there are a lot of people in between, people who support Trump on the issues but don't approve of his behavior or style.

6 posted on 04/22/2019 5:45:39 AM PDT by x
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People just don’t get it. The choice was between a liberal-stacked supreme court or a conservative-stacked supreme court. Should I, as a Christian, have voted for Clinton?


7 posted on 04/22/2019 5:47:43 AM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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We have to honestly admit to a large dose of pragmatism on the part of evangelicals voting Trump. The alternative was Hillary, and Christians were willing to overlook 3 marriages, profanity, various forms of unsavory things to avoid another Clinton Obama term.

Turns out his policies have been marvelous. The EPA has been reduced by 1/3, people!

In 2020 the choice will be starker, as the dem nominee will be a neo Stalinist. Trump it is, warts and all.


11 posted on 04/22/2019 7:11:35 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Kaslin; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; boatbums; ...
I’m by no means disparaging those still in such churches or any other church, because all have their own unique set of idiosyncrasies, but in my church, if the King James Version was good enough for Paul, it was good enough for us. In my church, the world was created in six days around 6,000 years ago, and any opinion or scientific & historical evidence to the contrary was “denying Scripture.” In my church, the “rapture” could happen at any moment, sweeping us all away while the world burned. Oh, and Jesus turned water into grape juice, of course, because the “devil’s brew” isn’t anything the Son of God would EVER make, much less drink. In my church, the girls wore culottes, “Hollywood movies” were of the devil, and any form of dancing would lead straight to fire and brimstone. And God help you if you were caught holding hands with your girlfriend in youth group. That’s some of my church-upbringing story, at least as far as I can remember it, mixed here and there with a bit of hyperbole, just for fun.

And so apart from the Rapture, grape juice and KJV hyperbole, you became a liberated liberal, denying what the NT church believed about Creation, and how they would class “Hollywood movies,” holding hands with your girlfriend in youth group, and the public baring of the legs of ladies?

If you grew up that way too you’ll recognize it

I was discipled in a FBC for 6 years after leaving Rome, thanks be to God, and will i disagree about the Pentecostal gifts, the time of resurrection of the just, and eternal security, no class of churches I know of had a higher degree of commitment to purity and quality preaching and evangelism of young and old the they.

Katha Pollitt writes of the “discrediting of evangelical Christianity” as being a “good thing” to come out of Trump’s presidency. “They’ve sold their souls to Donald Trump, who has partaken freely of practically every vice and depravity known to man. Urged on by their leaders, 81 percent of white evangelicals voted for Trump—more than voted for George W. Bush, an actual evangelical—and now everyone is laughing at them. It’s about time.”

Which is simply absurd, for we did not vote for Trump as a church pastor, or due to his personal purity, but due to his commitment to policies important to us, and refusal to cower to the liberal politically correct, who are substantially more immoral in their personal and public morality. And as an alternative to a supporter of foundation immorality which was being foisted upon them, and attacking and punishing them for opposing it, and was a friend of those who denigrate them as homophobic, Islamophobic, xenophobic, misogynist hatters who will not submit to the politically correct censoring of the “Left,” and which works to seduce votes with the demonic victim-entitlement mentality in promoting a welfare state which increases reliance upon a ever-growing regulatory government

12 posted on 04/22/2019 11:12:32 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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