The founding fathers wanted Los Angeles, Chicago, New York City, Philadelphia and Detroit to determine every single presidential election?
1 posted on
04/08/2019 3:09:25 PM PDT by
EdnaMode
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To: EdnaMode
From now on, if someone wants to diss the Electoral College, just agree with but say a national popular vote is too unwieldy (imagine the nightmare of a nationwide recount) and too easy to rig. I think you should suggest a one county/one vote form of election.
The beauty is that it sounds fair so a lot of low-info voters would approve.
56 posted on
04/08/2019 4:29:45 PM PDT by
OrangeHoof
(Trump is Making the Media Grate Again)
To: EdnaMode
"Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) claims the system was designed to help the slave states.
Nahy, Steve. That would be the Democratic Party, you one you are in. It was formed to keep tghe white man in charge whether by slavery or the KKK.
But that never bothered you, did it?
57 posted on
04/08/2019 4:32:49 PM PDT by
RedMonqey
("Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didn't.")
To: EdnaMode
Dear Joshua. In reality, it's not the ‘electoral’ college that is a failure, but the current iteration of ‘colleges’ as institutions of free-thought and intellectual pursuit that are undeniable failures. It is university-based ‘intellectualism’ that is a pathetic failure. Colleges have become the anti-compasses for finding one’s way to enlightenment.
As the recent shameful college admissions scandal has illustrated, universities are clearly not beacons of moralism and propriety. The Founding Fathers, who lived during a time when colleges were often founded as divinity schools, would be appalled at what institutions such as Wagner where you are a ‘fellow’ have become - echo chambers and ‘finishing schools’ for those who are looking for a ticket to societal connections.
The majority of you who hide behind slogans like ‘diversity’ are anything but diverse. You are so monolithic in your politically correct opinions and pronouncements such that you are no different or less predictable than a group of old Grateful Dead groupies who still drive Volkswagen microbuses with peace symbol bumper stickers. You would have to learn a lot to raise yourself to the level of stupid.
To: EdnaMode
The Washington Compost is an enemy of the United States of America. The Founding Fathers would probably agree.
To: EdnaMode
The Genius Electoral College is working PRECISELY as it is supposed to work.
Those with no IQ cannot understand what that means, but it is the truth.
No MOB rule for the USA.
To: EdnaMode
Another light-weight wanting to sit at the big table.
65 posted on
04/08/2019 5:02:36 PM PDT by
KC Burke
(If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
To: EdnaMode
Stalinists speak with forked tongue.
66 posted on
04/08/2019 5:10:01 PM PDT by
a fool in paradise
(Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
To: EdnaMode
The Founding Fathers would view Universal Suffrage as a failure.
To: EdnaMode
The electoral college was designed with two purposes: to separate the branches of government in an attempt to avoid cabals and to prevent foreign corruption.>> false premise straw man.
68 posted on
04/08/2019 5:37:05 PM PDT by
kvanbrunt2
(spooks won on day 76)
To: EdnaMode
This is utterly nonsensical and completely devoid of reality, yet it was written and published in a major newspaper as authoritative. The Founders didn’t intend for it to actually elect a President? The very first President was elected by it and then re-elected. It was quickly amended not long after to prevent constant elections by the House - well within the lifetimes of these same Founders - quite an oddity if it was never meant to elect a President.
To: EdnaMode
73 posted on
04/08/2019 6:04:50 PM PDT by
Nifster
(I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
To: EdnaMode
Anyone who writes a headline like this is just advertising their ignorance.
-PJ
75 posted on
04/08/2019 6:09:25 PM PDT by
Political Junkie Too
(The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
To: EdnaMode
It has been a resounding success.
To: EdnaMode
The Founders would double down on the Electoral College concept if they saw America today.
- There are probably 40 to 50 million illegals in the USA
- 43 states have a lower population than just Los Angeles county in California
- Los Angeles County has a larger population than the combined population of the most sparsly populated 15 or 16 states
- There are millions of illegal aliens in just Los Angeles county many of whom vote in US elections
- The state of California and other local and state governments encourage voting by illegal aliens either directly or indirectly with weak laws
- Without the Electoral College the direct vote by a handful of the most populous states would outvote the other 40 or 45 states
79 posted on
04/08/2019 6:57:24 PM PDT by
Vlad The Inhaler
(Give me Norfolk Virginia TideWater4-1009 The poor Boy Is On The Line)
To: EdnaMode
I wont pay a dollar to read this dreck, but I assume it eventually gets around to the truth, ie that the electoral college was a vehicle for the states to choose the president. It was a fundamental element of federalism to give the states some control over the executive, just as the original choosing of the Senate gave the states some control over the legislative branch.
It was not expected that the people at large would ever have much to do with the distant and mild mannered central government they anticipated, so there was no real need for the people to have to take a hand in its running.
80 posted on
04/08/2019 7:31:32 PM PDT by
hinckley buzzard
(Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
To: EdnaMode
The only “failure”, if you will, is that the Framers intended the electors to choose the president, which is partially undermined by pledged electors.
Technically, nobody here voted for Trump. The vote was for electors who pledged to go to the state capital and vote for Trump. (All but two of the 306 he won did so. Five of Hillary’s 232 electors voted for someone else.)
The Framers did not anticipate that. They anticipated that citizens would pick fellow citizens they trusted, who would then choose the president.
Of course, that went away pretty much after Washington left office.
81 posted on
04/08/2019 8:35:16 PM PDT by
TBP
(Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
To: EdnaMode
The author says the founders did not want either a direct election, or Congress to choose the president. Then he claims they thought Congress would end up choosing most of the time anyway. Since it didn’t end up with Congress deciding they would be disappointed. It’s a failure because it works, therefore it should be abolished in favor of direct election which was never seriously considered and which the college was designed to prevent. That’s some tortured logic there.
82 posted on
04/08/2019 10:14:24 PM PDT by
Hugin
("Not one step from his weapons should a traveler take"...Havamal 38)
To: EdnaMode
The founding fathers would be disguested with someone like Joshua Spivak AND the company he works for - according toi an ‘un-named source’.
MLK and George Washington and Mahatma Gandhi wouldn’t like them either. Even Albert Einstein would want Spivak OUT of OUR country ... along with everyone else at the Washington Post...
84 posted on
04/09/2019 4:55:16 AM PDT by
GOPJ
(When was the last time you heard a MSNBC bimbo use the phrase 'undocumented worker'? It's a win!)
To: EdnaMode
The electoral college is a failure Who did it fail?
To: EdnaMode
87 posted on
04/09/2019 6:07:38 AM PDT by
Leep
(It's.. (W)all or nothing..!)
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