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Dem Sen. Merkley: The Electoral College ‘Diminishes the Legitimacy of Our President
Breitbart - Trending ^ | 4-1-2019 | Ian Hanchett

Posted on 04/02/2019 12:57:31 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot

On Monday’s broadcast of CNN’s “OutFront,” Senator Jeff Merkley (D-OR), who has introduced legislation to eliminate the Electoral College, stated that the Electoral College “diminishes the legitimacy of our president, which is something else we should be deeply concerned about.”

Merkley said, “Well, we know the Electoral College, Erin, was founded on a rotten foundation. It was founded as an effort, as a strategy to accentuate the strength of those states who were slave states. And there’s just no justification for it now.

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(Merkley) later added that "… But certainly, recent history has shown that we have a system that the flaws have been exposed in, and it diminishes the legitimacy of our president, which is something else we should be deeply concerned about.” (Read it all)

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: electoralcollege
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To: DaiHuy

I see your point, but my thing is, I doubt they’ll fill out the form. If the form isn’t filled out, that’s as good as admitting that you’re not a citizen, right? Probably even better.

They are a very suspicious and cautious bunch, for the most part. They think that anything could alert them to La Migra and they’ll be on a bus and headed south in no time.


41 posted on 04/02/2019 1:35:34 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: Sir Napsalot

This genius is purposely harming future generations from his home state. What do the people from Oregon think about this insanity? The EC protects small states - not slave states.


42 posted on 04/02/2019 1:38:34 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Big blue states commit massive voter fraud.

Do we want presidents selected by CA? No.

A good strategy would to demand blue states allow
stringent election supervision as a precursor to national vote.
Uncover fraud. Throw the commies in jail.


43 posted on 04/02/2019 1:44:08 PM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: DeplorablePaul

LIB loser lunatics being in ANY position of authority or responsibility diminish civil societies everywhere. Hasn’t this nitwit read the Constitution? What an imbecile. His family must deny knowing him.


44 posted on 04/02/2019 2:02:41 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Innovative

She/He would work....


45 posted on 04/02/2019 2:05:43 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: Sir Napsalot

This is their plan beyond taking full control of the Presidency for the next 50 years.
Since they won’t have to spend $$$ on Presidential elections, they can throw 100% into State and Local elections.
In 50 years, we are looking at One Party Rule coast to coast.

By the time the GOP-e figures this out, they will all be dead and the rest of us will be trying avoid the FBI for weapon confiscation.


46 posted on 04/02/2019 2:06:34 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: Sir Napsalot

These are the same idiots who think “3/5ths a person” was a slight to blacks.


47 posted on 04/02/2019 2:07:37 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: qaz123

Good point if they don’t fill out the form they won’t be counted. Don’t know how that one slipped by me, must be having a senior moment.


48 posted on 04/02/2019 2:07:42 PM PDT by DaiHuy (May God save the country, for it is evident the people will not! Millard Fillmore)
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To: Sir Napsalot
who has introduced legislation to eliminate the Electoral College

Which, of course, cannot be eliminated by legislation.

49 posted on 04/02/2019 2:08:55 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say that 2+2 = 4)
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To: Sir Napsalot
If this dumb azz really wants to get rid of something that isn't doing what it was created to do, try the U.S. senate.

Since the ratification of the 17th Amendment, the senate is nothing but a smaller House of Representatives.

Get rid of one or the other. There's no need to have the people so poorly represented in two places-one's plenty.

50 posted on 04/02/2019 2:13:38 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: Sir Napsalot

It was founded as an effort, as a strategy to accentuate the strength of those states who were slave states.


Nice try, Jeff. It was (with the Senate) established so that small-population states would have some protection against the whims of the bigger states—the biggest being Virginia at the time. The Union was established as a union of the 13 states and states like Rhode Island, small both physically and in population, wouldn’t want to join a union where it would be overwhelmed by a states like Virginia and Pennsylvania.

I could be mistaken (I’m not) but the United Kingdom does not pick its Prime Minister by giving the job to the one with the popular vote, but rather by which party wins the most seats in Parliament. We pick our President by which Party wins the most electors.

The winner-takes-all is not mandated in the Constitution. States could award their electors by Congressional Districts and the winner of the state’s popular vote gets an additional two electoral votes. This would open up more states for campaigning.
Perhaps the push should be for that change.


51 posted on 04/02/2019 2:20:54 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: DJ Taylor
There are 3,141 counties in the United States. Trump won 3,084 of them. Clinton won 57.

This is false. Please stop quoting this as the source article on Brietbart was not saying this at all.
52 posted on 04/02/2019 2:35:30 PM PDT by siberianheat
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To: RedMonqey

Since we are a Constitutional Representative Republic and not a democracy, the meme will remain true. The world’s only democracy was in Athens, Greece from 508 BC until 322 BC or roughly 186 years. So the 100 year period is wrong.


53 posted on 04/02/2019 2:51:42 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Shady

Not to mention the first slave holder in the new nation was a black ...


54 posted on 04/02/2019 2:52:33 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: All

The left are all nutz.


55 posted on 04/02/2019 2:56:37 PM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff
The EC is probably going to go soon. Millennials are not Democrats nor Republicans and they HATE both parties. Get used to the EC going away soon.

Not in my lifetime.

Plus the slavery thing will be used against it.

Only if we have weak sisters like you on our side.

56 posted on 04/02/2019 3:07:33 PM PDT by Lazamataz (McCain's passing ended Iup being + 2 net Republican Senators. Him, and Lindsey Graham.)
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To: goodnesswins

Ping for one of our Idiot/Traitor Senators verbal droppings
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Well if we’re going to become a Democracy, then there’s no reason to have a Senate.


57 posted on 04/02/2019 3:07:54 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (Covfefe Trump!)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Merkley is in a contest to see if he can appear more ignorant of constitutional history than AOC.

In 1787 most of the Northern states still had slavery. The earlier rule (Continental Congress, Articles of Confederation) was for each state to have one vote. The small states tried to keep that rule at the Constitutional Convention but eventually compromised with the House of Representatives being based on population and the Senate having equal representation for each state.

The electoral college was devised when political parties were not foreseen and it was thought that electors would vote initially for people they knew (therefore the rule that they must cast votes for two people, one of which could not be a resident of their own state) and it was expected that elections would often be settled in the House of Representatives (where each state has one vote). States did not have to choose electors based on popular vote and for early Presidential elections we don't know who had how many popular votes. As late as 1860 South Carolina chose its electors by a convention.

All but two elections have been decided by the electoral college--so has nearly every President been illegitimate?

58 posted on 04/02/2019 3:17:56 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: lastchance

Absolutely! It had ZERO to do with slave state population- and they conveniently mix this up with the decision on the number of representatives in Congress being based on the census of the number of citizens in a State, and the proportional representation in the House... balanced by each State, regardless of size had 2 Senators only.

The Electoral College had to do with what was encountered in the old Europe— large population centers creating a “FACTION” due to the disparity in population vs. less populated areas. In order to make every province (in the US it was states) equal in the value of their decision... a group of electors was created.


59 posted on 04/02/2019 3:48:07 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: DesertRhino

Play with fire on this one. The states are like a sleeping giant. They will article 5 so fast it’s not even funny. The power of the federal government will be evicerated and put back into the states hands. This will cause a revolt. First at the ballot box then the cartridge box.


60 posted on 04/02/2019 3:49:53 PM PDT by DownInFlames (Galsd)
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