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When Eisenhower Died—March 28, 1969
Townhall.com ^ | March 28, 2019 | David Stokes

Posted on 03/28/2019 3:56:41 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Bigtigermike; awelliott

“Woodrow Wilson - D, the pioneer of todays modern day progressives”

Nope.

Despite the un-historical nonsense promoted by the likes of Glenn Beck and Dinesh D’Souza, the first progressive American President was none other than Teddy Roosevelt, Republican.

Teddy kick started the Amendment that would permit the income tax. He was a trust buster. And the National Monetary Commission which led to the Federal Reserve Act began with his signature on the Aldrich-Vreeland Act. Named for two Republicans.

And moreover Teddy Roosevelt was responsible for the election of Woodrow Wilson. Teddy ran as the nominee of the Progressive Party in 1912, siphoning off votes that otherwise would have gone to his former VP William Howard Taft.

The Republican party of 1900 was the home of progressives. It wasn’t until years later that they migrated to the Democrats. A number of TR Republicans ended up working for Teddy’s cousin FDR.


41 posted on 03/28/2019 7:07:15 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Second that. Just lost my WWII veteran dad.


42 posted on 03/28/2019 7:08:23 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: laplata

Good times. The Politically Correct try to say otherwise.


43 posted on 03/28/2019 7:09:49 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: JAKraig; Verginius Rufus
I would definitely put Ike above either of the Roosevelt’s, and way above FDR. FDR was a Socialist and extended the Great Depression by nearly a decade. He should be near the bottom of the list, just above Carter who is just above Obama.

Agree completely. For me the list is Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Eisenhower, Trump (final position to be determined).

44 posted on 03/28/2019 7:10:19 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (In war, there can be no substitute for victory. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: laplata

I remember Ike warning America about the rise of what we now know as Deep State. My next presidential memory is the Deep State coup in Dallas in 63.


45 posted on 03/28/2019 7:33:23 PM PDT by atc23
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To: Albion Wilde; JAKraig; Verginius Rufus

James K Polk always gets ignored. The most underrated President.

Polk made Manifest Destiny real, and it’s why we stretch from the Atlantic to the Pacific.

If the one term Whig Congressman from Illinois named Abraham Lincoln had gotten his way the continental United States would have been 1/3 smaller. No California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona. Parts of New Mexico, Wyoming and Colorado would be missing. And Texas wouldn’t have been allowed to join the USA. It was only later that he decided that instead of being prohibited from joining the US, Texas couldn’t leave.


46 posted on 03/28/2019 8:13:17 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: chajin

I don’t know the details, but my grandfather was a private in WWI, under Eisenhower at some point. The group was trying to figure out what to do with these new “tank” things. The Armistice was signed before my grandfather got shipped out to France.


47 posted on 03/28/2019 8:18:32 PM PDT by LimitedPowers (Citizenship is not a Hate Crime!)
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To: Pelham

I concede that TR was progressive, however he was more of a action progressive whereas Wilson’s was the thinker, his writings were the philosophy of today’s progressives and he was actionable too


48 posted on 03/28/2019 8:20:43 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: atc23

Yep, he called it the Military Industrial complex and inferred that it was part of what we call the Deep State.

I was 12 and remember Dallas. I agree with you about Dallas. Things changed for the worse after that.

JFK wouldn’t be allowed in the Democrat party of today.


49 posted on 03/28/2019 8:21:26 PM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Pelham

You are correct.


50 posted on 03/28/2019 8:23:33 PM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Pelham

God bless your Dad. We lost our WW II Dad a long time ago. He was in CBI Theater of War.


51 posted on 03/28/2019 8:25:42 PM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Pelham

No argument here. Anybody that’s a fan of TR and has some common sense needs to read “The Imperial Cruise.”


52 posted on 03/28/2019 8:33:50 PM PDT by awelliott (What one generation tolerates, the next embraces....)
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To: Bigtigermike

Woodrow Wilson was an academic, President of Princeton for years, so he naturally wrote more. But Teddy knew what the progressive movement was for because he agreed with it. His pal Robert La Follette helped found it.

The GOP of that time had plenty of now-forgotten bigwigs that were every bit as philosophically progressive as Wilson. Most people don’t know that political history and Beck and D’Souza have added to the confusion with their make believe histories.

https://progressive.org/dispatches/provenance-progressivism-robert-la-follette-franklin-roosevelt/

“FDR enjoyed the support of many GOP progressives in 1932. Liberal Republicans like Robert La Follette Jr., Philip La Follette, Hiram Johnson, George Norris, Henrik Shipstead, Bronson Cutting, Fiorello La Guardia, Harold Ickes, and Amos Pinchot openly endorsed Roosevelt over Hoover. Peter Norbeck, James Couzens, Lynn Frazier, and Gerald Nye did not endorse Roosevelt but support for him was implied by their refusal to endorse Hoover. La Follette’s 1924 running mate, Senator Burton Wheeler, backed Governor Roosevelt for the 1932 Democratic nomination.

“In addition to Secretary of the Interior Ickes and Director of Civilian Defense La Guardia, notable La Follette Republicans who joined the Roosevelt administration included Felix Frankfurter (Supreme Court justice), Ernest Gruening (governor of Alaska Territory), Robert Morss Lovett (government secretary of Virgin Islands), David K. Niles (Works Progress Administration and FDR administrative assistant), Frederic C. Howe (Department of Agriculture), Basil Manly (Federal Power Commission), Frank Walsh (National War Labor Board), and Thomas Amlie (would-be Interstate Commerce Commission).


53 posted on 03/28/2019 8:45:15 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Pelham

Excellent observation. I’ll think about that.


54 posted on 03/28/2019 8:52:21 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (In war, there can be no substitute for victory. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: laplata

Thank you. And God bless your father too.

Dad was a good man. A kind and humble southern gentleman, as well as a soldier and patriot. He was cheerful to the end. Never complained. Always grateful.


55 posted on 03/28/2019 8:55:39 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Pelham
My dad had exactly the same complaint about General Patton when Patton commanded 7th Army. Patton even disciplined some Army doctors for not having their helmets on while operating. More than a few soldiers were pleased when Alexander Patch took over for Patton.

“Colonel, there are 50,000 men on this island who would like to shoot that son of a bitch.”

56 posted on 03/28/2019 8:58:52 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: LimitedPowers
Ike, the Tank, and the Interwar Years
57 posted on 03/28/2019 8:59:11 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: awelliott

Would that be about ‘The Great White Fleet’?


58 posted on 03/28/2019 9:00:05 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: dfwgator

has to be Sicily....


59 posted on 03/28/2019 9:00:40 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Pelham

Thank you.

They were a lot alike and would have been friends. God bless all who served and died in that war and all the other wars and in between.


60 posted on 03/28/2019 9:03:13 PM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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