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President Donald Trump said he is grounding all Boeing 737 Max jets.

Which is fine by me. Figure it out first, fix it, then let them fly over my house.

1 posted on 03/13/2019 11:45:22 AM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

I think President Trump is being particularly magnanimous in allowing 737’s currently in flight to land.


2 posted on 03/13/2019 11:46:21 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

Does the NTSB have the black boxes yet?


4 posted on 03/13/2019 11:47:04 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

Not surprised.

Get problem resolved first.


5 posted on 03/13/2019 11:47:10 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

This is a no-brainer buying opportunity.

Some people are going to get rich off this.


6 posted on 03/13/2019 11:49:41 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

There goes SWA business plan.


9 posted on 03/13/2019 11:50:46 AM PDT by Republic_Venom (It's time for some Republic Venom!)
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Some freeper stated the Boeing 737 Max is an inherently unstable plane due to design changes from previous Boeing 737s. That is why the plane relies so heavily on a a computer to fly straight. I understand many military planes are designed to be unstable so they can perform high G maneuvers on a dime or for reasons of the airframe is maximized for stealth. Are there other commercial jets with a design flaw like this?


10 posted on 03/13/2019 11:51:57 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

Comet De Havilland redux.


13 posted on 03/13/2019 11:53:36 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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Just the first step in Sandy Cortez” Red/Green New Deal!


16 posted on 03/13/2019 11:56:57 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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Every morning I have four slices of Oscar Mayer pre-cooked, packaged bacon for breakfast. Every time since I've started doing this I have to take a pair of scissors to the inner packaging in order to get it open, even though it's a zip-top, resealable package. And every time I ask myself, why in heaven's name don't they test this packaging before they sell bacon in it to the public? Why not get some people to try it out first?

I have the same feeling about this Boeing deal. With all the money they put into this advanced technology, why not put it through some practical paces before selling the damn thing and losing your shirt to a malfunction that you might have seen beforehand?

17 posted on 03/13/2019 11:58:57 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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I'm guessing pilots inputting manual commands causes conflicts with automated systems resulting in unstable flight characteristics leading to crashes.

Also look for defective pitot tubes giving pilots incorrect information!

19 posted on 03/13/2019 12:00:04 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

He is right..ground them, find out what happened, if it was human error, the planes go back up, if something needs to be fixed than you fix them..its not worth the risk keeping these planes in the air without knowing what happened


20 posted on 03/13/2019 12:00:57 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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POTUS on Twitter yesterday:

"Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly. Pilots are no longer needed, but rather computer scientists from MIT. I see it all the time in many products. Always seeking to go one unnecessary step further, when often old and simpler is far better. Split second decisions are........needed, and the complexity creates danger. All of this for great cost yet very little gain. I don’t know about you, but I don’t want Albert Einstein to be my pilot. I want great flying professionals that are allowed to easily and quickly take control of a plane!"

This man find new reasons every day to make me LOVE him! Decisive. Caring (about the American people). Clear thinking and common sensical. And .... he does it all with ... IMPECCABLE TIMING via a vis the news cycle.... :>)

21 posted on 03/13/2019 12:01:25 PM PDT by Simon Foxx
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?; bitt; bagster

Sky Event?


35 posted on 03/13/2019 12:11:24 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

What was the cause of the Ethiopian crash? Why would we ground aircraft if this was a bomb
? ( which I highly suspect). What is the economic impact on the nation with this decision? How many are out of work now? What is the end game if we don’t know the cause of the Ethiopian crash. This is half baked.


37 posted on 03/13/2019 12:12:50 PM PDT by guyman
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Pilots complained to authorities about issues with the Boeing 737 Max for months before the deadly Ethiopian Airlines crash
https://www.businessinsider.com/pilots-complained-about-boeing-737-max-for-months-before-latest-crash-2019-3

The complaints were made in the Federal Aviation Administration’s incident database, which allows pilots to report issues about aviation incidents anonymously.

The complaints highlighted issues with the Max 8’s autopilot system, which has been called into question after Sunday’s crash and the crash of Lion Air Flight 610 in October. That incident also involved a Boeing 737 Max 8 plane.

The black box recovered from the Lion Air crash has indicated Flight 610 was repeatedly pushed into a dive position shortly after taking off from Jakarta, Indonesia. Investigators have suggested the automated system’s sensors may have malfunctioned. All 189 people on board were killed in that crash.

Observers have noted similarities between the two crashes, with Ethiopian Airlines CEO Tewolde GebreMariam telling CNN the similarities were “substantial.”

In one complaint, a commercial pilot described issues occurring during takeoff. As the autopilot was engaged, the aircraft’s nose suddenly pitched down, setting off the plane’s alarm system, which sounded “Don’t sink, don’t sink!” according to Politico. The situation was remedied only after autopilot was turned off, it added.

Another pilot who flies the Max 8 complained in November that it was “unconscionable” that pilots were allowed to continue to fly the planes without more training or disclosure on how the Max 8’s system differed from previous models, Politico said.

“The fact that this airplane requires such jury rigging to fly is a red flag,” the pilot said in the report. “Now we know the systems employed are error prone — even if the pilots aren’t sure what those systems are, what redundancies are in place, and failure modes.”


41 posted on 03/13/2019 12:15:27 PM PDT by Qiviut (McCain & Obama's Legacy in two words: DONALD TRUMP!)
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Says a lot about Boeing when the President has to step up. Boeing should have grounded their own planes. In my opinion


46 posted on 03/13/2019 12:20:08 PM PDT by SGCOS
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Luckily there’s an alpha-male at the helm. Can you imagine if another was to crash and kill 100+ people after failing to ground them?!


47 posted on 03/13/2019 12:21:54 PM PDT by FreedomMonkey
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We’ll be flying in a 737 900ER. They OK?


48 posted on 03/13/2019 12:22:24 PM PDT by windowdude
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

Has a judge overruled him yet?


50 posted on 03/13/2019 12:24:14 PM PDT by daler
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Given the fact that pilots at Southwest Airlines—the largest 737 MAX 8 operator in the world with 31 planes—noted the plane starts to act “weird” during climb out when the plane switches from manual to autopilot at over 3,000 feet altitude, no wonder Trump ordered he FAA to ground the planes. Boeing may need the assistance of NASA’s Ames Research Center (Mountain View, CA) and Armstrong Flight Research Center (Edwards AFB) to do aerodynamic testing and actual flight testing to determine a fix.


52 posted on 03/13/2019 12:26:16 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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