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To: Peter ODonnell; Kaslin; ml/nj; jjotto; faithhopecharity; left that other site; miss marmelstein; ...
When liberal Jews are among the strongest critics of the State of Israel, it demonstrates that there is a weakness in the argument that being anti-Israel is an anti-Semitic stand.

I believe that anti-Semitism should be assigned only to those who are anti-Jewish in some broader sense than being anti-Israel.

The issue has nothing to do with "liberal" Jews. They are ignorant of the history of their own people (or even masochists) if they advocate policies that will destroy the world's only Jewish state.

Make no mistake about it, advocating policies that will destroy Israel - such as the three new Democrat witches in the House clearly do - make one a hater of the Jewish people, i.e., an anti-Semite.

Anyone advocating a world without Israel is indeed anti-Semitic in view of the role of Israel as a place which Jews around the world have sought out when and if conditions in their Diaspora homelands become unbearable. And if ever the destruction of modern-day Israel came about, Jews around the world would generally be more vulnerable to persecution. So, just as it has been since its founding, a thriving Israel is a strong counterweight to anti-Semitism elsewhere in the world.

34 posted on 03/05/2019 6:16:53 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Good, thanks very much.

It is an historic tragedy that... with each and every crisis there are always some “Jewish” people who ... walk away and abandon their heritage and faith.............and even some who join the enemy of the day....seeking to harm or destroy the Jewish people they’ve abandoned

this leads to the Biblical concept of a remnant...
and all that.

What is impossible to adequately fathom, and therefore impossible to adequately explain ... is why at least the open traitor group...should still be viewed as, considered, counted as “Jews”

there IS Jewish teaching that such traitors/anti-Semites with Jewish names.............have no rightful claim to “membership” anymore....they’ve cast themselves out...

It is the same in Roman Catholic canon law, indeed there is automatic excommunication for knowing heresy (basically, holding a belief contrary to church law or tradition)...without even any of the outright attacks on the church or Catholic people as we so tearfully observe among “Jewish” anti-Semites..........(”latae sententiae”), Can. 1364 par.1 CIC.

Many/most Protestant churches have similar rules to cast out demons/heretics/false teachers/false prophets/etc. from their congregations, either through proceedings akin to excommunication or through automatic disfellowship, etc.

In conclusion, it is an understandable error but still a very unfair one.. to automatically label active anti-Semites as “Jews” just because they may still sport the Jewish names of their believing, loyal to God ancestors.

SorozNazi worked actively with the German Nazi occupiers against the innocent Jews of Hungary in WW2, and in more recent interviews (at least one of which I saw on YouTube)...he has no regrets ......none at all...
and he funds all sorts of anti_Biblical, anti-moral, anti-Jewish, anti-Christian front groups and agiprop “activists”
........He proclaims himself an atheist with zero belief in God...

to call such an evil and anti=Semitic person a “Jew” is very inaccurate, imho, and certainly most unfair....

I respectfully submit that we should try to be discerning about these matters, lest we misunderstand what’s really going on (and quite possibly do a lot of damage with all-too-quick arguments)

there are enemies of good people, enemies of moral values, enemies of Jews and Christians... everywhere these days, the enemies are not all Islamics

there are serious enemies right in our very own communities and congregations, parishes.....the Enemy Within (including the “Erev Rav,” in Jewish lingo.. which refers to the Enemies Within the Jewish people ever since Moses let some Egyptians join in the escape, the Exodus...)

if we lump all these internal enemies in whenever we speak of Catholics or Jews or Methodists or whatever, we do a great disservice... to ourselves included.. since we really need to properly identify them.. the enemy you don’t recognize as your enemy, you will put up no defense against.. and he will conquer you! from within your own tent


39 posted on 03/05/2019 10:14:14 PM PST by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: justiceseeker93

The late, great Wm. F. Buckley Jr. once said that while not everyone who is critical of the Jewish State is anti-Semitic, no one who supports the Jewish State can be said to be.


40 posted on 03/06/2019 9:57:55 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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