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To: beekay
The quite Leftist Lib "science in the public indignation" non profit lobbying group-- the Environmental Working Group or EWG sets a cut point of 160 parts per billion of any considered toxic chemical or byproduct for their listing as "toxic". This posting is about beer and wine (cheap and not so cheap brands) having 31 Parts per Billion of glyophosphate (and/or inert elements of roundup, and generic glyophosphate) weed killer. That's NOT 160 parts per billion, but 31 parts per billion. Actually both amounts are truly miniscule-- essentially TRACE amounts found in a selective sampling. So- what is a Part Per Billion? Parts per MILLION for example can be expressed as milligrams per liter(mg/L). This is one thousandth of a gram per Liter of water. This measurement is the mass of a chemical or contaminant per unit volume of water. A Part per Billion is one Thousandth of a Thousandth of a gram (one thousandth of a milligram) per liter ...and is Called a Micro-gram. One microgram per Liter is One Part Per Billion parts of water. To visualize this-- here's some analogies about one Part per Million (not billion, but million)--- One PPM is like: • one inch in 16 miles, • one second in 11.5 days • one minute in two years, or • one car in bumper-to-bumper traffic from Cleveland to San Francisco. So what about a Part Per Billion-- here's the metric math summarized: • 1 ppm = 1 mg/L = 1/1 million = 0.000001 • 1 ppb = 1 μg/L = 1/1 billion = 0.000000001 A Part per Billion in a bulk amount of wine would be LIKE: A DROP of ink in the largest tanker truck (like those used to haul gasoline) FULL of the Wine. A Drop of ink in a whole tanker full-- roughly 11,000 gallons of Wine. (That is a whole LOT of Bottles to be consumed to "accumulate" one part per Billion. Bottom line- this is a specious article, put out by libs, and hopefully not posted by a FReeper who doesn't know this. The PPB is used to "enhance" a generally false claim-- a "woo woo" factor of insignificant quantities as "detectable" -and by WHAT means detected? It is important to know the difference between ppm and ppb. As this difference is often used by libs/whackos to make a false claim or point. The use of DDT to de-louse the poor post WWII escapees from the Nazis--- was extremely effective in removing insect borne viruses and infections-- saving MILLIONS of lives-- but environmentalists said it caused softening of bird eggs. ==so, they BAN it. Only the UN is STILL able to use it in the world--- how about that? It prevents malaria spread by mosquitoes.
43 posted on 03/03/2019 10:23:29 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby

Your argument is a good one and reminds me of a current commercial with a bugger eating moron loudly asks, “How would you like to drink a glass of LEAD !!!” People are so easily persuaded by lying with pseudo science.

This is about money as much it is about enviro wackos. At least one lawsuit has found against Mosanto, manufacturer of Roundup, based on a bogus finding by a UN affiliated health organization that claimed that glyophosphate is a “probable” carcinogen. Hundreds of other lawsuits are in the queue. Billions of dollars are at stake and this effort is designed to win the popular argument and therefore taint the jury pool.

The fact that the biology of a dandelion has nothing to do with the biology of homo sapiens will be ignored in all of this.


53 posted on 03/03/2019 10:44:28 AM PST by centurion316
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