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Deadly raid leads to change on no-knock warrants
abc13 ^ | Feb. 19, 2019 | Miya Shay

Posted on 02/19/2019 4:41:57 PM PST by bgill

The deaths of Dennis and Rhogena Tuttle as part of a disastrous no-knock warrant has brought on one major policy shift at the Houston Police Department. "I'm 99.9 percent sure I'm not going to be using it," Chief Art Acevedo said. "If there's a specific case, it would have to come through my office." The chief made the announcement during a loud community town hall Monday night, pointing out the reasoning behind no-knock raids, to prevent suspects from flushing drugs down the toilet, just doesn't make sense. "If the amount of dope somebody has is so little, someone is going to flush it, you don't have much of a case to start with," Acevedo said. "And if they're so dangerous, why not wait until they come out of the house?"...Acevedo also says he wants to increase the use of bodycams among undercover officers, though that is policy that's been in development for several months.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cops; houston; noknock; tuttle
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To: bgill
Folks they know what is coming. Texas is going to lead the country in making no knock warrants illegal except in the case of a hostage situation.

If you live in Texas. Contact your Texas state congressmen and senators and ask them to support legislation banning the use of no knock warrants. It's way past time to end this unconstitutional practice.

If you live in Texas contact the Texas state attorney general office, Ken Paxton and urge them to conduct a full independent investigation. We must have accountability for the death of these two innocent people.

21 posted on 02/19/2019 5:16:06 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: bgill
Many years ago I was a civilian maintenance tech assigned to the 96th Bomb Wing MSSQ at Dyess AFB. I had a boss by the name of Bill that I really liked. He was a no bullsh*t, tell it like it was, gun carrying old cowboy.

We were sitting around talking one day and the subject of these kinds of police raids came up. He said, "I'll shoot through the door if they ever try that sh*t at my house. I won't give 'em a chance to identify themselves. My house is my castle."

I was shocked that he would seriously say such a thing. But living long enough to see how some out of control swat teams, drug task forces and all these other special kitty wanna be "operators" kill people, pets and get away with it again and again, I'm seeing where he was coming from.

22 posted on 02/19/2019 5:18:33 PM PST by Free in Texas (Celebrate diversity. Own firearms of every caliber.)
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To: bgill

This is much better than just ignoring the problem as I see some police forces do on various and similar situations.


23 posted on 02/19/2019 5:18:34 PM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: bgill

I am armed to the teeth. If you break down my door I have absolutely no idea who you are and will fight for my life and my beloved wife. If you are the cops and need to arrest me just wait near my mailbox, I will have a cup of coffee in one hand and if my wife is not around a cigar in the other hand. It would be a very easy arrest. I wonder if the cops would let me finish my cigar and cup of coffee?


24 posted on 02/19/2019 5:19:57 PM PST by cpdiii ( canecutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: colorado tanker
The no-knock warrant was all based on lies that an HPD officer apparently wrote.

In an affidavit, you swear under penalty of perjury that the facts you set out in the document are true to the best of your knowledge. Submitting a false affidavit is perjury, and a felony. When people are killed in the commission of a felony, the person responsible is usually charged for those murders. What better warning to cops that they must not ever file a false affidavit than to charge this scumbag with murder?

25 posted on 02/19/2019 5:20:24 PM PST by ETCM
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To: cpdiii
I wonder if the cops would let me finish my cigar and cup of coffee?

Maybe if they're not in a hurry, and you bring a couple extras to share.

26 posted on 02/19/2019 5:23:43 PM PST by ETCM
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If you bust through my door without knocking, expect two barrels of howdy doody.


27 posted on 02/19/2019 5:26:07 PM PST by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
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To: Lurker
He knows his department is gonna get its ass sued off.

This will never go to court. What will happen is the attorneys for the city and the attorneys for the victims families will only argue about how much the city will pay and it will all be sealed. Houston will pay a lot of money.

Actually of most importance are the cops that made false affidavits to get this "no knock" warrant. They are criminals and need to go to jail. I hope they like solitary. If they are in the general prison population they will be killed.

The real question is why did a corrupt cop do this? Something is missing about this story.

28 posted on 02/19/2019 5:26:45 PM PST by cpdiii ( canecutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: bgill

It is very refreshing to hear a police chief speaking logically with common sense.


29 posted on 02/19/2019 5:29:35 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Although it now seems hes doing this to cover his ass in a noknock that went wrong.

So now I have to question the sincerity of it, and his overall smarts in the first place.

Maybe resigning would be a good first step.


30 posted on 02/19/2019 5:32:29 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: faithhopecharity

“...Any police chief that sends (or lets) his officers in without knocking....is responsible for whatever happens to them....”

That is as it should be. No knocks need to be eliminated.
I know IF someone/something is busting down our door in the wee hours of the night/morning, who, or whatever it is, is gonna catch a crap load of holy hell with somewhere between 30 to 90 rounds of 300 Blackout comin’ at em. We’ve already been thru a similar experience here a few years back with some drug-crazed nut trying to bust down our door in the middle of the night. It was that event that made me add the 300 Blackout to our defense plan.
But, most LEOs in these parts know who we are here...but ya just never know.


31 posted on 02/19/2019 5:36:14 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: colorado tanker
I agree use of these warrants needs to be very limited. The first reaction of many homeowners on being invaded without warning is to defend oneself.

"No knock" raids have no place in a free society. Every home invasion begins with a kicked-in door and shouts of "Police! Everybody on the ground!" and the homeowner has a split second to guess who is storming his castle. If he defends his family against the police, he will be executed. If he fails to defend his family against the hoodrats, they all may die. Why is this ever necessary?

32 posted on 02/19/2019 5:41:31 PM PST by Always A Marine ("When you strike at a king, you must kill him" - Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: Kazan

Hey boot licker.


33 posted on 02/19/2019 5:43:05 PM PST by wgmalabama (Mittens is the new Juan. Go away mittens!)
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To: bgill
And if they're so dangerous, why not wait until they come out of the house?

Because there is a type of cop that just love the "dynamic entry"?

Lighting up some perps is just gratis.

34 posted on 02/19/2019 5:52:37 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Lurker

I think Acevedo just admitted that he and his policies are culpable.


35 posted on 02/19/2019 6:10:55 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Sergio

Collective punishment for individual guilt.

Needs a little fine tuning.

Maybe rather than from all the officers, from the retirement funds of individual officers who are guilty first, then the ones who could reasonably expected to have known about the crime and covered up or failed to disclose, then the top cop under whose watch it happened, and only if that doesn’t cover the award, then the rest of the force.


36 posted on 02/19/2019 6:36:34 PM PST by null and void (If socialism is so grand, why are Guatemalans coming here instead of going to Venezuela?)
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To: bgill

City gets sued, Acevedo keeps his job (prick that he is), crooked cop forced to retire yet retains pension. Nothing to see here......


37 posted on 02/19/2019 6:39:15 PM PST by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: magna carta

And he is anti 2nd.


38 posted on 02/19/2019 6:41:19 PM PST by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: Sergio
Any and all monetary damages awarded to a plaintiff as a result of the actions of law enforcement officers, are to ONLY come from the offending departments or organizations pension fund.

Damages will come from the bonders/insurance carriers. Of course, the taxpayer foots the bill for the insurance policy. A wonderful thing would be for the carriers to refuse to pay the award, which would then fall back on the officer and the department to pay the damages. It's rare, but I've seen it happen.

39 posted on 02/19/2019 6:47:37 PM PST by eastexsteve
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To: bgill; All

No-knock raids are prima facie violations of the Fourth Amendment.

They are unreasonable.

Period.

There is absolutely NO justification, absent a hostage situation, for these Nazi tactics.


40 posted on 02/19/2019 6:50:36 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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