‘It Is Not a Closet. It Is a Cage.’ Gay Catholic Priests Speak Out

The New York Times ^ | Feb. 17, 2019 | Elizabeth Dias

[Elsie]

 

“They take a vow of celibacy. Their sexual orientation should be irrelevant.

 

1 Corinthians 7:1-5

1 Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.”
2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband.
3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband.
4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife.
5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

“They take a vow of celibacy. Their sexual orientation should be irrelevant.

 

1 Corinthians 7:1-5

1 Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.”
2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband.
3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband.
4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife.
5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

[Elsie]

What does the catechism say about flogging the log?

[Elsie]

...since sexual immorality is occurring...

[Elsie]

Nothing new under the sun!

[DBeers]

LOL

As far as I can recollect the specific subject is not discussed. However, my understanding is that such activity is permitted as long as it is ordered toward the sexual act in a valid marriage -all this as interpreted by a well formed conscience.

[UCANSEE2]

"It Is Not a Closet. It Is a Cage."

[BenLurkin]

As another FReeper pointed out, celibate sodomite is an oxymoron.

[Vigilanteman]

Why is it that the default setting of the vast majority of hetereosexual men (like me) would be to beat someone to a bloody pulp who is sexually abusing a young girl, but the default setting of the vast majority of homosexual men is to rationalize the same kind of sick abuse against a young boy?

[Vigilanteman]

And 1/3d of the Angelic Host fell with Satan.

Funny how things like that break down in thirds, isn't it? I've often compared how that third who was cast out of heaven for wanting to deny men their free will is like today's modern liberal who want to force the rest of us to do what THEY think is right.

[Vigilanteman]

Your theology and private interpretation is warped. There is nothing immoral about sexual relations within the boundaries of a loving marriage.

The same apostle (St. Paul) goes on to condemn unnatural affection, homosexuality, in very clear terms elsewhere. Natural affection between a man and woman married to each other is an important part of marriage and sexual relations is an important bonding agent. It is a major reason why men stick around to help raise their young and do not leave to spread their seed elsewhere as do most males of the species in the animal kingdom.

Sexual orientation is highly relevant, the sole exception being homosexuals who are able to avoid acting on their orientation. How many of those do you think there REALLY are?