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Breaking: Trump to sign spending bill AND National Emergency at the same time
twitter ^ | 02/14/2019 | Garrett Haake

Posted on 02/14/2019 12:08:57 PM PST by GIdget2004

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To: GIdget2004

Yay, Trump! Fight, Trump fight! Hit ‘em with your left. Hit ‘em with your right. Hit ‘em ‘til they drop. Kick with all your might (then stomp on them, but I can’t make that rhyme).


281 posted on 02/14/2019 2:41:43 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Kevin in California

I agree, the tempers are high when the bill hasn’t even been voted on by the House and Senate yet.

But I am still asking questions that I hope legal experts can answer. This is an appropriation bill. It is funding. People are saying its amnesty and has provisions for letting minors or families with come in without detention. That would seem to be a bill killer if true, but my question is, can Congress combine LAW with appropriation at all? The process, which is SNAFU I agree, I thought was you passed law and/or authorization, and that was separate for appropriation.

From the interwebz: Authorization vs Appropriation. Authorization laws have two basic purposes. They establish, continue, or modify federal programs, and they are a prerequisite under House and Senate rules (and sometimes under statute) for the Congress to appropriate budget authority for programs.

So I don’t think this can be anything but a budget appropriation, but I ask legal folks to clarify for simple engineers like me.


282 posted on 02/14/2019 2:42:38 PM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Jane Long

I’m just trying to catch up. I’ve learned not to get too upset about anything until it’s a done deal.


283 posted on 02/14/2019 2:50:23 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: JewishRighter

This “government” cannot secure 2200+ miles of border, yet they are going to come against American with “overwhelming force?”

An “well-regulated” - meaning well trained and practiced - armed individual is more than capable of the task.

Moreover, once the word gets out that individual Americans are taking upon themselves the duty to “do the work government won’t do,” you would be surprised to discover how many Americans would likely follow that course of action.

Think of how long many of us have chomped at the bit over this issue.

Many individuals would suddenly feel some steel in their spines, and proceed to their duty, as citizen militia - which was and remains the point of having a Second Amendment in the first place.

How many here continue to complain about our dependency on government - welfare, etc ... but then think nothing about leaving the defense of the nation wholly in the hands of that very government they have come so much to distrust and even hold with contempt!

One man with courage can change a nation.


284 posted on 02/14/2019 2:52:52 PM PST by JME_FAN (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: Magnum44

Reports on Twitter say Senate just passed it. WTH it is.


285 posted on 02/14/2019 2:53:48 PM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: ncalburt

Damn, those pearls must be crushed to dust by now. And if you knot those panties any tighter, you’ll have a wedgey for life.


286 posted on 02/14/2019 2:55:35 PM PST by JME_FAN (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: mewzilla

Yeah it passed according to The Five on Fox in the senate.


287 posted on 02/14/2019 2:56:56 PM PST by Mozilla (Truth Is Stranger than Fiction)
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To: Rusty0604

I’m just trying to catch up. I’ve learned not to get too upset about anything until it’s a done deal.

Exactly.

I’ve been guilty of letting the media stir me up into a frenzy of panic and feeling betrayed - and every single time Trump manages to come out on top anyway in a day or two.

Don’t get me wrong. There are lots of things he’s done (or, more precisely, HASN’T done) that get under my skin. I will NEVER understand why he put off the wall until after the elections (because “some politicians I have a great deal of respect for” asked him to), why he hasn’t done a damn thing to reign in his seditious “justice” department (including nominating yet another swamp creature as AG), and why - as usual, absolutely NOTHING has been done to bring ANY democrat to justice anywhere for anything. That’s all very frustrating.

But I’m waiting and this time around I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt. He’s got to have SOME plan. I want to hear him explain it to me before I start looking up at the sky to see if there’s still any of it up there.


288 posted on 02/14/2019 2:57:07 PM PST by Pravious
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To: Magnum44

My understanding is the same as your’s. The rules in this appropriation bill expire on Sept. 30, 2019 and are only tied to the funding within it. So if Trump does not use the fencing money the bill has in it during that time nothing in it would apply to his Emergency Declaration. It only applies to the 55 miles they are paying for. There are many loopholes for Trump IMHO...


289 posted on 02/14/2019 3:00:48 PM PST by Vipper
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To: Jane Long

I will be tuning into OAN. I got Klowd Tv with capacity to rewind shows up to a week old. Replacing a DVR.


290 posted on 02/14/2019 3:02:41 PM PST by Mozilla (Truth Is Stranger than Fiction)
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To: JME_FAN
Stick the head deeper.
Denial is your friend .
291 posted on 02/14/2019 3:06:37 PM PST by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists out themse)
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To: JME_FAN

“Why are you not down on the border, shooting the enemy?”

I’m ready, willing and semi-able. Why aren’t you? Or do you just like bitching about the bitchers here on FR? /rolleyes


292 posted on 02/14/2019 3:07:47 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Cocked, locked and ready to ROCK!)
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To: GIdget2004

SCOTUS will slap it down.


293 posted on 02/14/2019 3:12:13 PM PST by RogueOne
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To: ncalburt

It will be nothing like what you just described. It’ll be just like he has promised and there be no stopping it.


294 posted on 02/14/2019 3:13:36 PM PST by MIA_eccl1212 (Imho)
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To: GIdget2004

Another shameful and humiliating day, I am getting tired of losing,


295 posted on 02/14/2019 3:14:26 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: MIA_eccl1212
What ?

Trump lost Laura Ingram his biggest supporter .

She is in disbelief he would sign it .

https://mobile.twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/1096150607772176386

Its time to face the facts .

296 posted on 02/14/2019 3:16:59 PM PST by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists out themse)
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To: GIdget2004

On Fox News radio whoever Guy Benson is is against the NE because he hates the use of the power. But Tom Shilue on earlier all in favor and wanted Trump to veto the compromise bill. I tuned in to hear callers comments. Hannity was lame. Turning it off now.


297 posted on 02/14/2019 3:17:59 PM PST by Mozilla (Truth Is Stranger than Fiction)
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To: Artcore
You got that right.
The only “Civil Wars” started are on these threads against other FR posters, and the only “Shooting” is from their Big Mouths. LOL.

Go Trump!!

298 posted on 02/14/2019 3:33:26 PM PST by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

That may be for the allocated part only. I really don’t know, but I trust President Trump to get the job done. We haven’t had anyone like him on our side, in my lifetime.


299 posted on 02/14/2019 3:40:28 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches, and get with what's real.)
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To: ncalburt

fact. it will be as trump has indicated. and NOT AS some tv pundit is soaking her seat over...

it’s time to face facts. pundits and idiots rhyme.


300 posted on 02/14/2019 3:42:58 PM PST by MIA_eccl1212 (Imho)
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