[struggle]

I used to go there in the 90’s and it was a mess except for Fisherman’s Wharf, North Beach, and Chinatown. Anywhere south of the Nordstrom’s on Market was an absolute disaster in the 90’s. My ex-gf and I once got off a bus in the Tenderloin by accident and saw a bunch of homeless duking it out in the alley IN FRONT of city hall WITH THREE COPS standing there.

What a nightmare it must be now.

[Salvey]

it was a mess except for Fisherman’s Wharf, North Beach, and Chinatown.

You left out the Marina District as another exception.

[RooRoobird20]

I once got off a bus in the Tenderloin by accident and saw a bunch of homeless duking it out in the alley IN FRONT of city hall WITH THREE COPS standing there.

What a nightmare it must be now.

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Mr. Roo Roo and I went to SF last spring, Uber driver taking us to the airport Wharf drove through the Tenderloin. There were COLONIES of homeless and illegals everywhere, living on the sidewalks, and disgusting filthy trash was everywhere. The Tenderloin is a true third world-like sh*thole.b The Fisherman’s Wharf area is starting to be just as bad.

We were there for a week and we probably walked 15,000 steps per day. We got a really good close-up look of SF. The only area that was reliably clean was Nob Hill.