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To: Logical me
You need to accept the reality that renewable energy is replacing fossil fuel. Every year the price of solar and wind gets cheaper

Solar works fine in places where there is a lot of snow and ice because because snow and ice create a lot of reflected sunlight which increases the solar panel output.

12 posted on 02/12/2019 1:59:13 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

But it’s very expecsive for a grid to have a large amount of solar power, say 30% or more:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/uhenergy/2017/02/07/wind-and-solar-power-seem-cheap-now-but-will-the-cost-go-up-as-we-use-more-of-it/#4f6ce531cb08

California is suffering from oversupply now.
Tomorrow is another day of course. And many grids are nowhere near the limit.


27 posted on 02/12/2019 5:39:13 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Ben Ficklin

“Solar works fine in places where there is a lot of snow and ice because because snow and ice create a lot of reflected sunlight which increases the solar panel output”

uh, yeah. right ... sure it does ...

https://www.google.com/search?q=snow+on+solar+panels&client=firefox-b&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjC89i46LfgAhVD6oMKHZBEBW4Q_AUIDygC&biw=1056&bih=359


30 posted on 02/12/2019 7:59:07 PM PST by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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To: Ben Ficklin

If it weren’t for the rest of being forced one way or another to subsidize solar idiocy, it would fail. What percent of energy is produced by solar? Less that 1%? What a pathetic fraud and joke.


34 posted on 02/13/2019 6:31:49 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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Use of renewable energy should be socially encouraged, just as homes/buildings follow social norms (good or bad), for its own good (which may vary by circumstance) such as power independence and reduced demand on limited resources and reduced/relocated pollution. Yes, it’s OK to be a conservative taking an interest in conservation & self-sufficiency. As the technology advances, objections (cost, manufacturing pollution, resources used) are addressed & mitigated. I keep solar panels for emergency & travel use, and augment home power from a solar provider to explore & encourage its use.

Don’t confuse that with _compelling_ use, making homes even more expensive by decree and prioritizing compliance over practicality.

I do see too many on the Right holding an imperative of “not Left, must attack any & all Leftist positions on anything”, rather than focusing on what is right & why (even if outcome overlaps with Leftist goals). We may joke about driving Ford Earth****ers just to pwn the Left, but actually doing so (and/or berating Conservatives who buy Teslas as “Leftists” just because it’s a nice & clean car) is not who we should want to be. (If you _want_ to be a crotchety argumentative prick, go ahead - just keep your distance please.)

If it doesn’t work for you, fine. Not all of us live in cloudy/snowy/dark areas. Nobody here wants to compel you to use it if it doesn’t make sense for you; here near sunny Atlanta, a solar-charged EV for commuting actually does make conservative sense.


36 posted on 02/13/2019 9:59:31 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

You need to accept the reality that renewable energy is replacing fossil fuel. Every year the price of solar and wind gets cheaper

...

The windmills are getting gigantic which is more efficient.


47 posted on 03/04/2019 4:09:20 AM PST by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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