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To: Max_850

I will leave my thoughts from the original raid thread here.

“No knock warrants are dangerous, of dubious constitutionality (not legal for this instance until 1995), and should only be reserved for the most severe cases. In ‘81 only 3000 no knock warrants were signed. In ‘05 alone 50,000 no knock warrants were signed and carried out. A number which has certainly grown since then.

I personally do not care about the people in question, nor this particular raid in general. I care about the rights of my fellow Americans, and the seemingly constant eroding of those rights under the guise of safety, or for our own good, or for the children. I reject those arguments outright.”

And this quote, which I found somewhere (not sure of the author).

“Police-state style assault forces being used to violently enter a persons residence when that person is not actively engaged in violent acts are incompatible with life in a free society.

As it is better a hundred guilty go free than one innocent person be imprisoned. So too is it better a hundred guilty destroy evidence of their guilt than one innocent person’s life be risked or worse ended by an extremely violent breach of the peace initiated by agents of the State.”


37 posted on 02/08/2019 7:48:19 AM PST by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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To: walkingdead
“Police-state style assault forces being used to violently enter a persons residence when that person is not actively engaged in violent acts are incompatible with life in a free society.

As it is better a hundred guilty go free than one innocent person be imprisoned. So too is it better a hundred guilty destroy evidence of their guilt than one innocent person’s life be risked or worse ended by an extremely violent breach of the peace initiated by agents of the State.”

Stealing that.....

40 posted on 02/08/2019 8:17:17 AM PST by Envisioning (Carry safe, always carry, everyday, everywhere.)
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To: walkingdead

you posted a quote that includes
“... it is better a hundred guilty go free than one innocent person be imprisoned...”
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That is an old and worthless quote. It is just a hypothetical posing as reality.
But in this era we have literally millions of innocents murdered every year because of the “rights” of women. So it figures that a lack of rigorous thinking and and a tendency to lazily quote trite old cliches is so popular.
We live in an imperfect world, among imperfect people,so it figures that we will have imperfect systems and less than perfect justice.
But that doesn’t mean we have to create or perpetuate false equivalencies.


42 posted on 02/08/2019 8:33:23 AM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: walkingdead
I will leave my thoughts from the original raid thread here

Your thoughts were very well stated and spot on!

50 posted on 02/08/2019 7:08:21 PM PST by TexanByBirth (Free Republic: where they may agree with the message, but they love to shoot the messenger!)
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