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To: Olog-hai
Aren't all people entitled to self-government, of the form of their choosing? It is not leftist (even a little bit) to respect this right of self-determination. This right is indeed part of the liberty to which you refer.

In the USA, us conservatives go on and on about how we are a Republic, and therefore not directly democratic, and as long as we select our leaders according to the Constitution, this is a good thing (electoral college, etc. comes to mind). Why is this ok for us, but not for the Russian people? They overwhelmingly support Putin's leadership, and when Putin finds problems, he deals with them using the tools provided to him under the constitution of the Russian Republic.

Aside from that, Russia is not socialist in any meaningful way, so this reference in their constitution doesn't make them socialist in practice any more than India's constitution does.

19 posted on 02/08/2019 11:12:14 AM PST by billakay
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To: billakay

That’s a little presumptuous, saying “us conservatives” when you now express views that are anti-conservative, particularly against the Electoral College which insures the states the power to choose the President instead of allowing large population centers in a few large cities to disenfranchise the states in such an election.

When anyone is appointed in a process that goes against the established electoral process, that is not government of the people’s choosing. Same applies to unilateral legislating away of electoral processes.

The phrase “not socialist in any meaningful way” is nebulous. Many concern trolls have claimed the same of Red China.


20 posted on 02/08/2019 11:51:35 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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