Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence

Imprims ^ | January 2019 | Alex Berenson

[yoe]

[snip] So I did. The big studies, the little ones, and all the rest. I read everything I could find. I talked to every psychiatrist and brain scientist who would talk to me. And I soon realized that in all my years as a journalist I had never seen a story where the gap between insider and outsider knowledge was so great, or the stakes so high.

I began to wonder why—with the stocks of cannabis companies soaring and politicians promoting legalization as a low-risk way to raise tax revenue and reduce crime—I had never heard the truth about marijuana, mental illness, and violence.

[snip] Almost everything you think you know about the health effects of cannabis, almost everything advocates and the media have told you for a generation, is wrong.

[A Navy Vet]

If I've said it once, I've said it a hundred times.

Constant use of THC numbs ambition, motivation, determination, and creates a lackadaisical outlook on life.
It IS also a gateway drug in many cases.

I am a witness to the above. I am a Boomer from the Hippie generation (wasn't a Hippie) and watched my pot obsessed friends deteriorate into mindless zombies. They lost jobs, families, their self-worth, and spent time in jail. All so they could just lay back and groove.

Yes, I did it for awhile, but stopped when I noticed the "clueless chill mindset" taking over my thinking. THC is an insidious drug that affects daily normal behavior, unlike alcohol when you wake up the next day. Yes, alcohol is as addictive and can be a bad drug if not in moderation, However, you burn it off overnight and unless an alcoholic it has little effect on you life.

The above said, I've never had a problem with medicinal THC for terminal patients or those in chemo-therapy/radiation to increase appetite or other relaxation benefits. Our Nation will rue the day when we started accepting legal THC. Mark my words.

[free_life]

Yep total BS ... probably written by Reefer Madness Jeff Sessions and paid for by Mexican drug cartels.

[Mariner]

“For example, a January 2018 paper in the American Journal of Psychiatry showed that people who used cannabis in 2001 were almost three times as likely to use opiates three years later, even after adjusting for other potential risks.”

That’s funny right there, I don’t care who you are.

Which came first?

This article is FULL of allusions and incomplete statements. The Drug Warriors need a new story.

To debunk the opening allusion: How many pot smokers vs how many with schizophrenia? Does smoking pot cause schizophrenia?

The author asks the question, and never answers it. Leaving it as bomb in the mind of the reader.

[fella]

Check out all the chemicals that the growers use and the studies on chemicals in the smoke. Made me stop back in the 70’s,

[free_life]

🤣

[fella]

"Too many politicians, ad agencies, Wall Street, and marijuana farmers making money on the folks."

And the Cartels that support them. The Cartels have been moving their profits into "Legit" businesses for years it's the Mafia model of organized crime.

[free_life]

And some people who have psychotic conditions are helped by cannabis use. Indica helps many, while Stavia makes worse for some.

[Ken H]

>>Have always been baffled by the desire to self-impose chemical stupidity. I can understand it from democrats, since they have no idea what true intellect is.

But, conservatives?<<

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What, conservatives never use alcohol?

[free_life]

You mean like the loser Steve Jobs? 😀

[Big Red Badger]

Big Lebowski,,,

Dude said,
“You Paraquate!”

Classic.

[Ken H]

>>Our Nation will rue the day when we started accepting legal THC. Mark my words.<<

I wonder how we managed to get along for the first 160 years of the Republic. Did FDR and the Progressives save us from this terrible scourge?

[Mariner]

This article is prima facie proof that crazy people and drug warriors should not smoke pot.

It’s also direct proof that you can convince either of just about anything through mere allusions and oblique reference as if it were cause and effect.

[Ikemeister]

Cue the potheads...3...2...1

[Ikemeister]

http://harddawn.com/why-are-potheads-so-annoying/

[Mariner]

How many of the drug warriors here eat opioids like candy, and drink more than once a week?

At least several hundred, on this forum alone.

And they come out in force on the pot threads to deride those who smoke pot. And they’re often drunk when they do.

[Ken H]

This should debunk the idea that legal pot causes increased opioid ODs. Legal states are doing better overall than prohibition states =>

source: https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/images/data/2010_2016DrugOverdose-Deaths-Graphic.JPG

[NobleFree]

Think of the difference between near-beer and a martini, or even grain alcohol, to understand the difference.

Yes, let's do think about those ... does the potential of liquor to get one seriously intoxicated, or even dead, justify banning it - much less justify banning all potencies of alcohol?

And do people who drink near-beer drink the same volume of liquor - or do they use a lesser amount of the more concentrated substance?

[Magic Fingers]

Cue the nanny-staters in 3...2...1.

[Mariner]

“does the potential of liquor to get one seriously intoxicated, or even dead, justify banning it - much less justify banning all potencies of alcohol? “

Well yes, yes it does.

It destroys people and families on a scale nothing else approaches.

Not even close.

[NobleFree]

It [liquor] destroys people and families on a scale nothing else approaches.

Not even close.

Agreed.

Well yes, yes it does [justify a ban].

Disagree - we learned with alcohol and should have learned by now with pot that the primary effect of a ban is to enrich violent criminals.