There were MANY other cities with far worse numbers than these two, St Louis was number one in violent crime with 1817 per 100,000 and number two in property crimes with 6316 per 100,000.
From the 2015 statistics, these cities were all more violent than Houston or New Orleans: St Louis, Detroit, Memphis, Milwaukee, Baltimore, Oakland, Kansas City, Stockton, Cleveland, Indianapolis, Washington D.C., Toledo, Atlanta, Buffalo, Nashville, Newark, Anchorage, Minneapolis, Philadelphia, Miami, and Wichita. Not many of these cities had any refugees from Hurricane Katrina. Were there folks who came to Houston from New Orleans that committed crimes? Absolutely. However, based upon where these cities ranked in 2015, almost even with each other, the type of people living in each city are of comparable character and are far nicer than many others living in cities across this nation. Stop giving New Orleans a bad rap for being basically the same type of city as Houston, crime-wise.
“The violent crime rates released from the FBI for the year 2015 indicate that Houston and New Orleans are almost dead even when Houston had 966.7 per 100,000 people and New Orleans had 949.6 per 100,000. Both cities ranked well down the national listings with Houston at 22nd, and New Orleans at 24th.”
Sure... now that all the New Orleans criminals got dumped on us by Katrina.
OK. I’m just kidding. You’ve got some useful facts and data, but they do not show the full picture. Before Katrina, New Orleans had a per capita murder rate of about 5 times the national average as well as cities of comparable size.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1963280/
Crime had been growing rapidly prior to Katrina while the population of New Orleans was declining. See the attached PDF of the study at:
https://digital.library.txstate.edu/handle/10877/3564
A study at the University of Memphis confirms a dramatic (27%) increase in murders in Houston in areas with a large number of evacuees from Katrina:
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/5a78/d3ddc33a477eb9b98d263ffb02600ee2ff1f.pdf
“However, based upon where these cities ranked in 2015, almost even with each other, the type of people living in each city are of comparable character and are far nicer than many others living in cities across this nation. Stop giving New Orleans a bad rap for being basically the same type of city as Houston, crime-wise.”
Sounds like you are taking my observations personally. I’m not trying to insult anyone or anyone’s town. I’ve lived in Houston most of my life but am not especially fond of it. I agree that Houston and New Orleans are similar in the category of crime. Both cities have a lot of good people and a lot of commendable things in them as well, like you pointed out.
Katrina resulted in a permanent resettling of hundreds of thousands of people from Louisiana (not just the New Orleans greater metro), and a lot of the people who chose to stay were more transient with less family roots and job commitments to go back to. There were many here who were ranting about the Katrina housing vouchers going away literally years after the event. I think the effect is similar to how illegal immigrants tend to bring problems while legal immigrants often benefit us.
As a conservative, I believe people are responsible for their own actions. So, complaining about crime in Houston or New Orleans should not be taken as an insult to ALL of the people here or there. I’ve known good people from both.
Thanks for the stats and lively discussion. I always appreciate my FRiends here for keeping me informed and forcing me to check my assumptions. And even when we do not all always agree, at least we come away more knowledgeable than before.
“The violent crime rates released from the FBI for the year 2015 indicate that Houston and New Orleans are almost dead even when Houston had 966.7 per 100,000 people and New Orleans had 949.6 per 100,000. Both cities ranked well down the national listings with Houston at 22nd, and New Orleans at 24th.”
Sure... now that all the New Orleans criminals got dumped on us by Katrina.
OK. I’m just kidding. You’ve got some useful facts and data, but they do not show the full picture. Before Katrina, New Orleans had a per capita murder rate of about 5 times the national average as well as cities of comparable size.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1963280/
Crime had been growing rapidly prior to Katrina while the population of New Orleans was declining. See the attached PDF of the study at:
https://digital.library.txstate.edu/handle/10877/3564
A study at the University of Memphis confirms a dramatic (27%) increase in murders in Houston in areas with a large number of evacuees from Katrina:
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/5a78/d3ddc33a477eb9b98d263ffb02600ee2ff1f.pdf
“However, based upon where these cities ranked in 2015, almost even with each other, the type of people living in each city are of comparable character and are far nicer than many others living in cities across this nation. Stop giving New Orleans a bad rap for being basically the same type of city as Houston, crime-wise.”
Sounds like you are taking my observations personally. I’m not trying to insult anyone or anyone’s town. I’ve lived in Houston most of my life but am not especially fond of it. I agree that Houston and New Orleans are similar in the category of crime. Both cities have a lot of good people and a lot of commendable things in them as well, like you pointed out.
Katrina resulted in a permanent resettling of hundreds of thousands of people from Louisiana (not just the New Orleans greater metro), and a lot of the people who chose to stay were more transient with less family roots and job commitments to go back to. There were many here who were ranting about the Katrina housing vouchers going away literally years after the event. I think the effect is similar to how illegal immigrants tend to bring problems while legal immigrants often benefit us.
As a conservative, I believe people are responsible for their own actions. So, complaining about crime in Houston or New Orleans should not be taken as an insult to ALL of the people here or there. I’ve known good people from both.
Thanks for the stats and lively discussion. I always appreciate my FRiends here for keeping me informed and forcing me to check my assumptions. And even when we do not all always agree, at least we come away more knowledgeable than before.