Posted on 01/21/2019 11:19:18 AM PST by gattaca
Tucson Sector Border Patrol camera operators captured video of a bus dropping off a group of migrants at an unsecured portion of the border in southwest Arizona last week. The migrants quickly exit the bus and cross where no barrier exists to stop them. The Border Patrol video, reported by NBC News’ Gabe Gutierrez and Annie Rose Ramos, shows a bus approaching an unsecured portion of the Arizona-Mexico border during the early morning hours of January 14.
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“The Military is legally prohibited from enforcing domestic laws, under the Posse Comitatus Act.”
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Then how did Eisenhower get away with it?
The National Guard can also be used.
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“just takes determination”
That is the real bottom line.
The Military (and the Border Patrol) are capable, but political leadership calls the shots.
There is no way (legally) that unarmed border crossers can just be shot (summary executions). All that is really needed is a law authorizing immediate deportation of illegal crossers - flights right back to their home countries, after they are booked, biometrically identified, and heavily fined.
They learned that technique from their political brothers, the North Koreans.....
“Then how did Eisenhower get away with it?”
There is an explicit exception in the Posse Comitatus Act for suppressing insurrection/civil unrest. Many Presidents, including Eisenhower, have used the military under this exception during rioting, and after natural disasters to control looting.
“The National Guard can also be used.”
The National Guard, while under State control (not Federalized), is exempt from Posse Comitatus. They can be (and have been in the past) deputized by State Governors with law enforcement authorities like arrest powers. When not Federalized however, only limited/constrained Federal funding can be made available, so large/long activations are not a financial option to the States. There might be some ways around this, but it has been an obstacle in the past.
There are exceptions built into law, that have not yet been fully invoked, to use the Military specifically for border control.
Ultimately however, the use of the military could not correct the problem, if they are bound by the same self-defeating catch and release laws that bind the Border Patrol. If the laws were corrected, the Military would not be needed. There would predictably be aggressive legal pushback by the Left to exercising those untested Military powers at the border, which might result in those powers being lost. In fact, some of that authority is now being used in the current Military support deployment to the border - partly to firmly establish the legal precedent.
Exactly. Wouldn’t it be great to read a “report” just after this with the headline “Bus Unloads Group of Private Citizen Border Watchers with Rifles at Unsecured Border Section in Arizona”?
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The military is still on the border, however they are limited on what they are allowed to do. They cannot detain illegals. They can run cameras, set up observation sites, improve or build border roads and but up wire. All of those things are helpful, but they cant enforce any laws.
““There is no Congressionally declared war to authorize the use of military force.”
Didn’t stop us from engaging in expensive and senseless wars in the ME. Waco...Ruby Ridge...”
Congress did authorize the use of Military force for those operations in Afghanistan, the Middle East and essentially the rest of the world to counter terrorism.
Waco and Ruby Ridge were under the authority of domestic law enforcement, with limited support to them by the Military (loan of vehicles in Waco). Law enforcement pulled the triggers.
Bunkerville,,,
“The same buses that drive Democrats to multiple polling stations in election day drive future Democrats to the border.”
Funny how one no longer sees/hears talk of all the OUTSTATE BUS license plates showing up in/during the NE states elections....
Yessiree, those cameras, high tech drones and motion sensors sure did stop ‘em.
We better buy more of those playthings so the congressional lobbying firms that make them will have even bigger bottom lines
...at the expense of the safety of we the people
But wasn’t that authorization supposed to be temporary, pending a declaration of war by the Congress?
Seems to me the War Powers Act of 1973 or an updated version would apply. Maybe the Patriot Act changed all that.
Regardless, it sounds like you are more familiar with these details than I am. This is a very frustrating situation we face here.
There are assets we could deploy to see these buses coming 50 miles out
We need snipers on the border if Dems won’t build the wall.
That's right .
Yeah, well. What is that other chck’s name with the confused heritage? Some kind of puerto rican - irish thing.
The Authorization for the Use of Military Force (AUMF) passed in the wake of 9-11 was not time limited, and was the basis for most of our Military operations overseas since. Beyond Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria; we have operated in dozens of other countries, like Yemen, Somalia, Libya and Niger.
The immigration problem we face is dishonest politicians who deceitfully work to ensure illegal mass immigration through many means - loopholes like broad asylum exceptions, incentives like education, medical services and welfare, denying resources for effective enforcement (like walls), and policies like catch and release, no detention of minors or family separation, and lengthy (years) hearing and appeal processes for deportation.
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